mrb627
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There are new models listed on the website.
New Speed Queen Models Coming Soon!
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The excitedly-touted new feature on the TR models seems to be a delay on locking the lid until the first spin.
A comment on the video says that the TR7X35 is an export model rated 3.5 cu ft based on the Canadian IEC standard vs. 3.2 cu ft based on the US DOE standard.
The machine in the video thumbnail is a toploader with the combined washer-dryer control panel from the SF7 stacked frontloader set on it ... photo editing or fake/AI.
The 6th character position TR700xWN (or BN for Black Matte color) probably is indication of a minor engineering revision moreso than a substantial new model.
A comment on the video says that the TR7X35 is an export model rated 3.5 cu ft based on the Canadian IEC standard vs. 3.2 cu ft based on the US DOE standard.
The machine in the video thumbnail is a toploader with the combined washer-dryer control panel from the SF7 stacked frontloader set on it ... photo editing or fake/AI.
The 6th character position TR700xWN (or BN for Black Matte color) probably is indication of a minor engineering revision moreso than a substantial new model.
This guy is an idiot , there is no larger TL washer coming out, there is no reason for a larger machine, a. dryer is always at least twice as large as a washer.
If you are interested in a larger washer get the FL models, they wash much larger loads than SQs top load machines.
The only change is the TR machines do not lock till the spin cycle.
John L.
If you are interested in a larger washer get the FL models, they wash much larger loads than SQs top load machines.
The only change is the TR machines do not lock till the spin cycle.
John L.
mrb627
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Another website offering the machines for ordering has the front loader detailed with a steam refresh cycle.
An obvious typo, imo.
An obvious typo, imo.
mrb627
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With all the conjecture of SQ listening to their customers and giving them what they want, I thought maybe Boosted Hot was making a comeback to the FL machines.
As I have stated before I wish that speed Queen would put a heater in their front load washer and John I am adamant about that feature I use the heater on my LG all the time
People have been too brainwashed with the wonderfulness of cold and basically barely warm water washing
When I put a 50/50 358277 mixing in my Speed Queen it was a noticeable improvement for the better. Personally I discovered that Tide Professional and many other detergent labelled for cold water washing actually do best not in cold water or hot water, but in warm water around ~100*F. Clothes come out clean, fresh and bright while saving energy.
I think ATC that guarantees true warm water washing should become standard on all MOL and TOL top load washers as this would provide the best results while using the least amount of energy. And yes, I do agree that heaters should be put in front load washers with cycles that provide various levels of assured temperature from 50*F to 195*F.
Personally my dream Classic Clean Speed Queen would have the control system of a early 2000s Kenmore washer. 3 Speed motor, motor speed selector switch with fast/fast; slow/fast; slow/slow; extra slow/slow; intermittent extra slow/slow; slow/fast, ATC, variable water level, extra rinse selector, pre-wash, soak, Ultra Clean with Ultra Rinse system, Permanent Press II with half tub drain cool down, fabric softener dispenser, dual action agitator and all porcelain on steal cabinet.
I remember the boosted hot on the speed queens that were from the '90s and I'm disappointed they never brought it back but then again it wouldn't be a speedy Queen
phillymatt53
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I used to appreciate Speed Queen's designs, particularly their mention of having an all-metal gear transmission for ruggedness and durability.
I also was impressed by their use in commercial laundromats, where breakdowns would cost the owners time and money. - so they were made to handle abuse by customers.
But was that all just marketing talk?
I suggested SQ to a few friends, who thanked me and got SQ's - the older models. - so far, so good.
But that contraption shown here, with its "busy" panel of computerized controls turns my stomach.
I also was impressed by their use in commercial laundromats, where breakdowns would cost the owners time and money. - so they were made to handle abuse by customers.
But was that all just marketing talk?
I suggested SQ to a few friends, who thanked me and got SQ's - the older models. - so far, so good.
But that contraption shown here, with its "busy" panel of computerized controls turns my stomach.
I remember seeing the user manual for those and wanted one so bad. I think they should've just kept the heater as it wasn't forced to be on. Users could choose if they wanted the heat boost or not. I still think it would have been worth it instead of removing the feature altogether.
If I remember correctly a few years back John actually posted that he had never used the heater option on the unit he has in his collection. But as far as I'm concerned for true temperature control in the front loader you really do need a heater to boost or maintain temperatures because if so little amount of water comparatively for wash cycle.
What really baffles me is that these FLs are sold with a heater in other countries.
So there are machines like this with a heater - just not for the US market.
And sure it would be a certain BOM cost to include - but honestly, past the 1500$ mark, that shouldn't be the thing stopping them...
So there are machines like this with a heater - just not for the US market.
And sure it would be a certain BOM cost to include - but honestly, past the 1500$ mark, that shouldn't be the thing stopping them...
IMO the best front load cycles fill cold and then heat the water to a target temperature based on the fabric and color being washed. Clothes get cleaner and the process is far more energy efficient. Quicker at 230 volts than 120 volts of course but I would still be willing to have that feature regardless.
I actually do like the incredible flexibility found on the control panels of the ff7 front loader and the TR7 top loader. The simplified controls of the lower models leaves me very uninspired and not wanting to buy any of those lower models. I always prefer choice and flexibility in my appliances especially laundry and dishwashers
And I do not like that flexibility solely designated and relegated to apps on your phone and not on an appliances control panel
I do agree users should have the option of buying a simple model or a fully featured model if they like, however, one thing that infuriates me is when they take away relatively simple features from low end models that are otherwise found on high end models. I find it unfair to consumers who want and need good performance but don't but all the extra bells and whistles much which may sacrifice dependability. That is what I liked when purchasing my AWN412. While it does not have a speed switch, slow/fast combinations, ect it still has a two speed motor, fabric softener dispenser, bleach dispenser, stainless steel tub and all metal transmission.
He keeps insisting there is a new Texas facility too. There isn't.
A simple programming change is an entirely new model?
What will these models be like? Will they have bigger capacity? What about the wash action?
Not only that, but water recirculation should be too.
panasonicvac
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Nothing really new or exciting honestly but this guy is wrong about them coming out with a bigger top loader and I don't think they ever will come out with one. They already have bigger washers available, anybody ever heard of front loaders? I use UniMac commercial front loaders once a week (some with heaters) and they can handle the amount of loads that any top loader can't.
Agree, and with some type of lint filter. I remember the original two belt Raytheons had a recirculating pump. How time only make me miss the past more.
The new lid lock might be in relation to some people having failures where lid locks failing caused whole control boards to go out.
Saying that because how they make it sound (agitation with no lid lock, only lock during spin) is - and correct me if I'm wrong - different to the old way (lock lid always, unlock when paused) for the TR design.
That *could* require different hardware for the lid lock and related control board modifications.
Most locks on either TLs and FLs do NOT sense if the lid is closed until they try to actually lock.
All they see is they can't lock if the lock is "empty".
Those simple locks basically just have a feedback on the locked state (yes/no) and power for the lock.
Other locks have another connection back with some kind of switch giving the feedback if the lid/door is closed - either via a separate switch or one integrated in the lock.
It's not a huge difference and that's just speculation with the limited info available.
But that could make sense for both customers and SQ.
Saying that because how they make it sound (agitation with no lid lock, only lock during spin) is - and correct me if I'm wrong - different to the old way (lock lid always, unlock when paused) for the TR design.
That *could* require different hardware for the lid lock and related control board modifications.
Most locks on either TLs and FLs do NOT sense if the lid is closed until they try to actually lock.
All they see is they can't lock if the lock is "empty".
Those simple locks basically just have a feedback on the locked state (yes/no) and power for the lock.
Other locks have another connection back with some kind of switch giving the feedback if the lid/door is closed - either via a separate switch or one integrated in the lock.
It's not a huge difference and that's just speculation with the limited info available.
But that could make sense for both customers and SQ.
What I would like would be these having all the knobs as my Whirlpool/Kenmore did, especially if to me I’m going down to the not so prestigious brand I consider, well, Speed Queen to be, and would even consider the status of a GE…
I even almost got my mother-in-law’s Amana, lacking separate speed controls and an extra rinse but she left those with her house she was moving out of, while keeping my bells ‘n whistles units, of which both worked until the suspension was giving out in my dryer…
I even almost got my mother-in-law’s Amana, lacking separate speed controls and an extra rinse but she left those with her house she was moving out of, while keeping my bells ‘n whistles units, of which both worked until the suspension was giving out in my dryer…
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Why is he lying? So much for the factory in Texas building larger versions of these.
A good example would a huge load of colors, especially jeans. They get tumbled right through the water.
And a dedicated fresh water spout for filling the tub and rinsing and killing suds.
The heater in my Miele Little Giant washer is great and the main reason I got it when the second set of Askos died after just 7 years of use.
phillymatt53
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Well, after reading many customer complaints on the SQ website, I get a different view now on that brand.
**Numerous complaints of "burrs" in the tubs, tearing clothes.
**Lid locks failing to unlock.
**delays in getting repairs done.
Among other issues.
And this is from the TOL model, with all those fancy "touch-buttons"
Sorry SQ, I'll never reccomend you to anyone now.
**Numerous complaints of "burrs" in the tubs, tearing clothes.
**Lid locks failing to unlock.
**delays in getting repairs done.
Among other issues.
And this is from the TOL model, with all those fancy "touch-buttons"
Sorry SQ, I'll never reccomend you to anyone now.
Don’t know what all this locking stuff is for washing machine lids…
A washer would normally shut off, at least during a spin cycle and if there is worry about someone sticking a hand in a moving agitation machine than during the agitation, too…
It’s hard to wait for my washer lid to unlock when I quickly need to add something to a load, often what I accumulate drop or find that’s part of what I’m washing…
Than all the pausing and restarting of the components I hope isn’t subject to any wear and tear and hard use vs. a simple lid switch, manually operated and more durable, no matter how excessive…
No surprise that the electronic models would cite this problem, as would all these machines having burrs in those metal tubs, as opposed to smooth porcelain and even plastic, if care is given to avoid flashing, not to have such flaws…
My Maytag at least has a knob for the cycle/fabric selection with the touch-pad buttons for everything else…
Although in the beginning, mistakenly cancelled a cycle causing the washer to drain, when I meant to only pause it…
A washer would normally shut off, at least during a spin cycle and if there is worry about someone sticking a hand in a moving agitation machine than during the agitation, too…
It’s hard to wait for my washer lid to unlock when I quickly need to add something to a load, often what I accumulate drop or find that’s part of what I’m washing…
Than all the pausing and restarting of the components I hope isn’t subject to any wear and tear and hard use vs. a simple lid switch, manually operated and more durable, no matter how excessive…
No surprise that the electronic models would cite this problem, as would all these machines having burrs in those metal tubs, as opposed to smooth porcelain and even plastic, if care is given to avoid flashing, not to have such flaws…
My Maytag at least has a knob for the cycle/fabric selection with the touch-pad buttons for everything else…
Although in the beginning, mistakenly cancelled a cycle causing the washer to drain, when I meant to only pause it…
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