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College for all and the end of vocational training Very well put. While I think that the push towards college for all independent of ability, preparation, or proclivity was an extremely important factor in the death of vocational education (and, as an aside, has not been good for colleges...

The end of vocational education Yes, I would say we have paid a price for ending vocational education in our schools (largely for budgetary reasons I think, but who knows what else is behind it). So there are very few qualified repair people coming on line. It seems a pity as trades are...

It was interesting to hear Miele's quality assurance person struggle to find a capable installer for the new machine. They dismantled their "Miele Concierge" install team (the ones who installed it 11 months ago). And now they have their repair teams but no installation. Since I had experienced...

Yes, I do feel like kind of a chump sometimes for doubling down on Miele.

Update on Miele negotiation I guess I won’t be in the market for a new washing machine after all. Miele has agreed to replace the machine with a new machine. Timing to be determined.

Do you have an opinion about the best front loader that’s not a “fancy, designer appliance ?” By best, I mean best at gently cleaning my clothes. I am not interested in the water and power conservation features. I want to be able to safely wash everyday towels and sheets, as well as delicates...

Update on leaking washer It’s been over a week since Miele service visit where they discovered the leak. To date, they have not contacted me to set up a new service appointment to replace the part they claim is the problem. Meanwhile, I have written to their quality assurance group outlining...

The machine is 11 months old and under warranty. I have not been charged for the visits or the upcoming repair. Of course, the flip side is that I have had a sporadically working washer for the past 3 plus weeks, I have been taking laundry to another location, strategically plotting how often I...

By the way, I am not completely convinced with Miele’s explanation. Is it reasonable that 10 drops or so of leaking per laundry cycle can really fill up the drain pan enough over time to trip the water sensor? I live in a desert/dry environment. I did get to see the dripping in action. It...

Diagnosis from Miele tech so far Laundress- you have pretty accurately described my experience. After canceling on me last week (for waterproof system problems that started on Oct 18, resulting in a tech visit one week later and an admonition to stop using so much soap), I had my second tech...

Thank you! I will have to wait to find out more as Miele Tech canceled on me today (very frustrating after staying home waiting). Do you think I should be concerned about the recirc pump error?

Henene4- thank you. it sounds like I should try my best to get the tech to open the machine and take a look, which he did not do last time.

Jerrod- also, that’s a good tip about the fill valves. My water is extremely hard here, so perhaps that has some impact on the internals (although admittedly the previous w4840 did not have a problem - although it did have other problems that led to its ultimate demise).

Jerrod- yes, I believe that is ALL the tech did. He hooked up his laptop and read off all of the error codes in the 11 month life of the machine. He found F10, F15,f16,F69, F104, F138. I think the water intake error came during initial install (or a day later). Some of the error codes must...

Thank you, I will ask about leaky internal hose possibility and take another look at the soap dispenser. Henene4 - when you say slow leaks are easy to spot, do you mean to say that I would observe some water in the floor or elsewhere, or do you have something else in mind? Does anyone think...

Henene4- you asked "Anything you did in connection with the errors? Cleaning the drain filters can cause such an error if you aren't carefull and spill to much water into the cabinet" Although I have cleaned the filters in the past, it's probably been a couple of months, so no, I can't really...

My W1 gave a “call for service/waterproof system” error last week. Miele Tech came to service, and noticed that I had a few suds errors in the past. He speculated that suds overflowed and caused the water sensor float to trigger shutting down the machine. In the end, by the time he came for...

I would stay away from 4840. Not their best effort. I have had 2 die premature deaths (after 8 years, and paying repair bills along the way. Bearings went).

How many drain holes are enough? I think the Little Giant already has around 1000. I have noticed any issues with water or debris left in machine. IMO it offers superior cleaning performance, although I certainly have not observed all of the brands mentioned here. The main issues are its...

I think Miele is a privately-owned company and therefore doesn’t face the same pressure to grow as it would as a public company. It remains iconoclastic and Teutonic, and at least the US branch doesn’t bow to consumer pressure on many issues. I like many of their washing machines, but sometimes...