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    What is the best modern washer to buy (outside Speed Queen)?

    What do you think is the best modern washer to buy outside of Speed Queen?
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    The GE HydroWave: One of the worst washers ever

    Lately one person has been defending GE’s HydroWaves and their Model-T machines, but they were terrible machines. I’d much rather even use a Samsung machine than a GE HydroWave, at least when a Samsung gets off balance it’ll redistribute, while a HydroWave will destroy itself before of the lack...
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    What did you think of the F&P style whirlpool washers

    They were labeled as Maytag, Kenmore and Whirlpool. Example of a floating tub Whirlpool Cabrio.
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    What did you think of the F&P style whirlpool washers

    This was a Whirlpool design that came out in 2006 and was discontinued in 2015 and long replaced with the VMAX. I own a VMW and I never owned the F&P machines. They were sold under the Bravos and Cabrio names, just like how many VMW and VMAX machines were. Those names aren’t used anymore on the...
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    What contributed to the end of Mayag?

    I made a thread about this.
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    When did GE start to go bad?

    I’ve seen a GE HydroWave make a loud metallic grinding noise on wash cycle
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    Modern Whirlpool washers SUCK

    I own a VMW myself and I’ve had it for 11 years and the bearings only started getting noisy. My machine is a 2014 Whirlpool WTW4900BW0 washer. If you take care of them right they last while, but all the ones outlined in this post are the newer ones and those seem to be worse overall than older...
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    When did GE start to go bad?

    The sound a GE HydroWave or Model-T makes slamming into the cabinet does indeed sound like rapid fire explosions in acceleration. I’ve seen an unbalanced HydroWave machine and I did hear the noise, sounded like it was going to explode. You can see many videos of HydroWaves going crazy on the...
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    When did GE start to go bad?

    Model-Ts and HydroWaves should’ve definitely had balance sensors in them. HydroWave and Model-T are the most likely washer to get out of balance. The HydroWaves and model Ts can have broken parts like the tub ring or broken tub straps by just going out of balance three times, even less. The...
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    When did Whirlpool start go to bad?

    Yes. These were one of the last WCI Frigidaires and were horrible machines.
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    When did GE start to go bad?

    The Model Ts and HydroWaves didn’t have balance sensors, and most older washers didn’t except for the older belt driven Whirlpools. The reason why Model Ts and HydroWaves were so prone to broken straps was because they didn’t have balance sensors and when they went out of balance they went wild...
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    Maytag walks across floor during spin cycle

    You can try the suspension rods first as those can also fail, but on these bigger VMWs (like the WTW5000DW), it’s often the tub that fails.
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    Maytag walks across floor during spin cycle

    Bad tub bushing. Very common failure on these machines. Neu has an appliance part for this but it can be tedious to put in. Unfortunately, this is a VERY common failure mode and it causes these machines to shake violently on the spin cycle. This is caused by friction, out of balance loads, and...
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    Junked a 2011 Hydrowave

    In fact, your Samsung top loader on average has better reliability than both a HydroWave and a Model T.
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    When did Maytag start to go bad?

    I know there were some older kenmores using the belt drive system. Kenmore was one of the first brands to ever be manufactured by whirlpool (except Whirlpool itself). The Whirlpool belt drives were great machines (not referring to VMWs)
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    When did Whirlpool start go to bad?

    The GE model Ts or WCI Frigidaire just didn’t clean as well as a Speed Queen, older Maytag, or a Whirlpool direct drive. Both the WCI Frigidaire and Model T GE were bad machines, and when they failed they had to get scraped. Frigidaire also made a terrible high efficiency system with the agitub...
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    Junked a 2011 Hydrowave

    The reason why violent shaking made the HydroWaves or Model Ts sound worse when agitating was because broken tub straps were VERY common on those machines.
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    When did GE start to go bad?

    Broken tub straps were a very common failure mode on HydroWaves and Model Ts, and an off balance load caused the tub straps to break. When the mode shifter went bad on a HydroWave or when a model T violently shook on agitation, this also cashed the tub straps to fail. Both the HydroWave and...
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    When did GE start to go bad?

    On the model Ts and HydroWaves, broken tub straps were very common.
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    When did Whirlpool start go to bad?

    The model Ts and HydroWaves were absolutely terrible machines and shouldn’t be mentioned. The Kenmores, Whirlpools, and the WP built direct drive Maytags (2006-2011) were great machines. The Whirlpool/Kenmore direct drives from the 80s to early 2010s were great machines. The model T and even...
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