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  1. michaelz08

    BobLoad™ Documentation

    Wow... I'm really confused how those mugs and corningware got clean in the first one. There's so little water that could have made it in with how tight that rack was packed. Unless their pressure from that middle arm is insane.
  2. michaelz08

    This must have been the inspiration for WPs current third racks

    I’m not even sure how I ended up on this, but I found a circa 2005 Maytag Dishwasher Brochure. I’d never heard of American dishwashers having third racks prior to the late 2010s, and never heard of ANY dishwasher having a rack setup like this! That crazy setup immediately made me thing of the...
  3. michaelz08

    GE 2800 On Facebook in MI

    Was browsing Facebook for no good reason, and this listing for a GE2800 came up. Everything I know about it has come from this forum, of all the computer-integration attempts the appliance companies made in the 80s this remains one of the most interesting to me. Hopefully it finds a good...
  4. michaelz08

    Frigidaire Dishwasher OrbitClean Spray Arm Issue

    And they’re barely improved since then. kalanikaau1- you’re right on the money. My Frigidaire fridge made it barely 4 years before it broke in such a way that the labor to repair it exceeded its value. And beyond that it was not well constructed, the cavity was slightly too wide for the...
  5. michaelz08

    Comparing Available Powder Detergents

    johnb300m- to the best of my knowledge, it’s always been city water. A google search confirmed they’ve been on Lake Michigan water since 1991. I used the wayback machine to check the pages I had checked previously… at this point I think I may have misread the table and accidentally jumped a...
  6. michaelz08

    What is the worst dishwasher you've ever owned?

    My history so far is short … having only spend enough time with about 4-5 dishwashers. I’d have to name the worst one as the FGID2466QF6 that came with my condo. It cleaned and dried fine, save for the occasional thing here or there, and wasn’t too loud either, but it was kind of overwhelming...
  7. michaelz08

    Comparing Available Powder Detergents

    johnb300m- I’m not sure what’s gone on, but at some point in the past 3 years I read that my city water was 21/gal. I thought that was high, but didn’t question it. After your remark, I went and double checked online and now my town says 8.4/gal. I know I’m not crazy, I definitely read 21 at...
  8. michaelz08

    Comparing Available Powder Detergents

    Regarding harder water... @combo52, I asked it to re-rank assuming hard water (I asked for 21 grains, as that's what we have here) and here's the updated rankings: Though worth noting, if I had a model without water softening I would add extra citric acid knowing what I know these days. In the...
  9. michaelz08

    My thoughts on the Miele G7166

    The dirty cup saga continues After returning from a trip this weekend we unloaded the G7166 and the dirty cup issue is worse than just the cup shelf. There were cups (that were un-shelved/on the rack) that came out with food residue, some of them are really not great. It removed the coffee...
  10. michaelz08

    My thoughts on the Miele G7166

    They should switch back to the metal ones. In addition to allowing less water through, these are too flexible (makes it harder to know that they’re position properly), and have less height options than the older style. The only benefit is the rubber for glassware stems, but that is not enough of...
  11. michaelz08

    Comparing Available Powder Detergents

    I have been seeing mentions of specific ingredients to look for in detergents around here and was curious which is the best powder detergent around. I wanted it to be Cascade, given it's the only powdered name brand left (I think?) but to get a somewhat subjective take I took the ingredients...
  12. michaelz08

    My thoughts on the Miele G7166

    @mrboilwash I wish it was just the corners! It doesn't seem to matter where along the shelf they are. At this point I will have to avoid putting these smaller cups there altogether. Ironically, my larger cups do not have this issue on the shelf. They should have continued using the metal mesh...
  13. michaelz08

    My thoughts on the Miele G7166

    Cup shelf issues... It happened again, this time in at least two of the cups on the cup shelf. I think it's because these cups are a smaller diameter and the shelf is quite bulky. So not enough water can get into the cup to clear this redeposit? Even though I leave the row in front of them...
  14. michaelz08

    If Speed Queen made a Dishwasher

    Entering a new appliance market is difficult and expensive… … and probably not worth their time. Speed Queen is a brand that you’ve either heard of and have strong opinion on, or haven’t. They aren’t enough of a household name (anymore) to enter the kitchen appliances market. Plus...
  15. michaelz08

    Front Load Washer Recommendation- Whirlpool or LG

    I’ve checked out the new machines in photos, the tubs and door assemblies look pretty similar to the last models. I think it may be a more cosmetic update (new controls, new door seals with that anntimicrobal coating/marketing, and making the filter more accessible) than a new generation. That...
  16. michaelz08

    Front Load Washer Recommendation- Whirlpool or LG

    I have been asked by a friend for a stackable front-load washer/dryer recommendation. I’ve had good experiences using both brands (had my own LGs for ~5 years, we have a set of 17 year old Whirlpool Duets in my family that are great), but I wanted to get some input. The primary concern is...
  17. michaelz08

    My thoughts on the Miele G7166

    @mattl when I was looking at models in 2023, I was seeing a lot of complaints over the new PowerControl system in the 800 models. Plus the mandatory use of the app to do some things that used to be controlled on the DW were major turn offs. Prior I had been seriously deciding between a Bosch 509...
  18. michaelz08

    Questions on two KitchenAid dishwashers

    When it comes to filters… I frequently see the KA clean water wash system mentioned but I wanted to throw in my 2 cents here on filter based systems. Whirlpool seems to do a good job with their filters, as in my last WP (a global wash machine) it did not need frequent filter cleanings. Every...
  19. michaelz08

    Front Panel for Recent Maytag

    @combo52 makes a good point about the weight on the door. While it may physically be possible to remove the stainless steel front, order some things, and mount whatever you want, there's the limitation of the door springs. In current gen Whirlpool panel ready models, the door springs are...
  20. michaelz08

    My thoughts on the Miele G7166

    @speedwagon - the inside pass program is direct from Whirlpool, so delivery would be handled the same as if you were buying directly from their normal website. I wish I worked in the appliance industry, I am currently in tech consulting. @logixx - No, the app for the G7166 is useless. You can...
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