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I have a post regarding the updated motors, and to my dismay they're still the same, if not worse.

I wish these new dishwashers still have 3450 rpm motors in them.

If size isn't the issue, why are many consumers still complaining about the time it takes? Also, Today's Maytag dishwashers revert to that stupid alternating wash zone crap. I want all arms operating at once. The ones Whirlpool and everybody else use are just glorified pond pumps. Mine has been...

The machine does get enough water. It is the type of pumps they use. No wonder why today's dishwashers take 2-3 hours.

I wish I could say it could get better, but they're getting worse. I suspect all Whirlpool dishwashers use these puny and weak pumps. Don't even try to wash a load you just had blueberry pancakes, shrimp alfredo casserole, or cheese enchiladas in a day, let alone a week. Not even Cascade or...

That's my beef with these things. When the point voyager came out, they kept the real recirculation wash motor. I hate when manufacturers do that stupid crap. My biggest concern is that it would only get worse. We already saw what GE did. Whirlpool is still doing it.

Shameful that inverter pumps are being used on some models.

It still happens today, maybe even worse.

I wish dishwashers would do the same. I have a post on the whirlpool dishwasher pump updates. Needless to say, I hate the puny pumps they're using. They sound like toys. Their sprays are weak to begin with.

At least all arms operated at once. That's something I wish these Whirlpool units would go back to again. And they had a real motor to greet you.

What do you mean broken? Even if working properly, many consumers are sick and tired of the 2-3 hour cycles and the poor performance, due to the weak water pressure these pumps use. Older dishwashers just plain worked. no messing around. Where's phillymatt?

I bet these pumps just last up to a year. These have way too little power to move anything off of crusty plates and dirty bowls. I was shocked when I ran my dad's dishwasher with the door open when the upper rack was running, and I was surely disappointed. The spray was so weak you couldn't wet...

I don't! It's the pressure these puny pumps use, and they take over 3 hours! I wish Whirlpool would just leave the power clean module alone! They could've easily offset the pump and make the basin deeper.

I suspect that is. Same with GE! Screw GE!

Yes I do!

Oh, trust me. They wouldn't want me dealing with any of them. The reason why I tilt washers and dishwashers back is to see what's under the hood. Then when you get it home and actually use the matching laundry and dishwasher, your suspicions are founded all along. Take GE laundry and Whirlpool...

Same! And I'd like a real dishwasher! I posted a rant about it!

That reminds me. I posted a thread about my Whirlpool/Kenmore dishwasher. That pump is puny and it's just burned out in July! The Whirlpool/Kenmore did! That STUPID Chinese wash pump just died! That wash pump is weak!

What matters to me is that the dishes get completely clean in a reasonable amount of time. And not with stupid crappy puny pumps! Call me petty if you will, but I want a real pump and motor behind the machine, not a toy. These new machines sound like toys compared to yesteryear! Why should I...

How does it sound? Does it do it during agitation or spin?