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Thank you, I am now torn between the Miele W1 (prob 2nd level up) and the LG 3800. The Miele has very hot water and extra rinse, the LG is bigger but may not get water as hot and water hammer issue may still be there. I want to take a chance on Miele but nervous, very pricey. I am in cold...

Thank you for the updates, very much appreciated. I dont know much about Speed Queen, I will look into it. Petek, do you have your washer on the main floor or basement. Any water hammer? We have it bad with the old lg top loaders. Thanks folks!

My top load LG waveforce 9 years old has been depositing brown black mud like flecks on clothes and in tub. After running tub cleans got repair man in and he took out impeller to find brown sludge and engine gear oil. Not worth fixing. I need a new machine asap. Complicated by horrid itchy rash...