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and now we're threatening to shoot people. fascinating how this goes.

wet rotor pumps are very common in so many things these days. They come with a myriad of benefits, not the least of which being NO SHAFT SEAL TO FAIL!!!!! take that GE ^_^... These pumps develop plenty of pressure, more than enough to spray you in the eyes if you open the door too fast. ask me...

Jerome, to answer your question for what is hopefully the last time, I am pretty sure these use a wet rotor pump with a volute style turbine. I think WP has been using this style for a while. The maytag/kitchenaid microfilter systems use an induction motor. Both systems have roughly the same...

I stand corrected I am amazed and quite disappointed that they have stooped as low as that. Apologies for my doubting. Brushed motors have no place in dishwashers, even as a drain pump.

Brushed motor Where did you ever get the idiotic idea that GE is using a brushed motor in their dishwashers???? Not a single manufacturer I am aware of has *EVER* used a brushed motor in their dishwasher, ironic since they are pretty common in WASHING MACHINES. I don't comprehend how you two...

Maybe it was to make it easier to pour? I have personally noticed that its quite hard to get it into the reservoir without spilling some on the door unless you're being very careful and moving deliberately.

Interesting machine, but much too complex for what it is and I think that heavily contributed to their downfall. I'd still love to own one at some point, sorta a modern-day apex wash-a-matic almost haha. Unfortunately the weird wash motions almost always lend themselves to being a complex and...

Cascade complete powder I don't know if this is a local issue, but has anyone else been able to find cascade complete powder recently? It seems that most places around me are out of it and it isn't even listed on shelves anymore. Kinda sucks.

I love non-filtered machines with a macerator. evenly disperses crud over every single thing in the top rack, especially corner glasses. gotta be extra asinine on scraping lest you miss some rice... that being said, the newer frigidaire does better than the GE/Hotpoint tower wash we had prior...

my family used to have a norgetag washer/dryer. From memory the most common issues we had were with the dryer, the bushing or mount or whatever on the blower fan would wear out and the dryer would get super noisy, and then we'd have it replaced and it would be fine for a few years but then...

Every single time this topic or something similar comes up its always you two complaining. It's tiring and its the same stuff every time too. I wish that the sites team would come and moderate for once, this has gone too far time and time again. By and large those issues you claim happen to...

leaving refrigerators upright for 24 hours Not to disrupt the discussion or move off topic, but I have had fridges that state that you should leave them upright for a minimum of anywhere between 4-12 hours and in some cases 24. Here's a specific example...

this wont change anything if manufacturers still want to be competitive on a global scale. Especially since it will likely change back in 4 years. I find it really funny that he claims to be promoting innovation when he's doing the opposite...

The Point voyager upper rack was a point of issue with ours too. seemingly perpetual yiblets! even after replacing the brittle cracked feed pipe it failed to perform nearly as well as our new KA does.

I have this dishwasher in my college home currently, minus the orbit arm. You'll find satisfactory cleaning in both racks with the replacement arm I am sure.

Paper is the absolute killer of these machines. anyone using them should make sure that their detergent has cellulase enzyme in it as that will partially help, but the main solution is to not put items with paper labels/scrape fibrous food scraps off before loading. the fibers don't dislodge...

nightmare to service I don't think I fully agree with this "nightmare to service" having dealt both with whirlpools earlier design and this newer design. pulling it out of the cabinet is not that difficult, and given on the older one you had to reach around the pump to unhook the little locking...

dude please, we dont need the rambling.

I am puzzled at what niche this will fill, I feel like people that want a dishwasher are looking for the push-button convenience, and people that aren't are probably just going to handwash anyways... sure, I suppose there might be a very niche few that will buy a machine like this, but I cant...

I believe ours is around 3 hours usually w/prodry. it depends, it adjusts timing based on soil