40 Inch GE P7 Range - Dubuque, IA

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Dean:

I think decoding the serial number of this range will bring up a date in the early '80s. What's interesting is that it's the same architecture as your range. Lots of detail changes, but the basic frame dates back to the '57 "Straight-Line Design" restyle.
 
Dean:

John combo52 might know for sure; the question is complicated by a couple of factors.

One, GE stopped cataloging its 40-inchers somewhere along the line, even though it did continue to offer them.

Two, GE subcontracted at least some 40-inch range production out to White Consolidated Industries, makers of some very iffy appliances under the White-Westinghouse and Frigidaire brands. These WCI units rebadged as "GEs" do not begin to approach the quality of ranges GE made itself. They also do not have much, if any, parts commonality with GE-made GEs. I don't think even John is sure when this nefarious practice began and (mercifully) ended. Here is a photo of a WCI-built 40-incher badged as a GE; you can see its basic architecture is different from genuine GEs:

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I can second this.

 

My parents were manipulated into scrapping their beautiful 1956 Liberator stove (one burner was out and several generations of mice had turned it into Mousie retirement Condo) for his very model by the local GE dealer. This stove is an outsourced model and a very ordinary performer. The worst thing about this stove is that the 2nd smaller oven is so narrow that it's practically useless. Dear Mother was shocked and appalled when she realized that the Turkey that fit into the smaller oven of the Liberator couldn't fit in the new side-car. They didn't have much choice at the time. There were very few 40" stoves available and most of them came from the same factory. I wouldn't pay more than 25 dollars for one of these in mint condition.
 
Sandy, thanks for that brief history of late-model GE-badged 40-inch ranges. A Google search reveals that GE was offering 40-inch ranges into the early 2000s. Below is a picture of the latest model I found -- sorry, it's not pretty. For GE's sake, I hope another company designed and built it.

 

Here's the link where I found information on this range: http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SpecPage&Sku=JCP67FWW

 

 

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Dean:

That's Electrolux-built. Electrolux in America is what's left of WCI. If you'll look very closely, you'll see that the range in your photo and the WCI-built "GE" in the photo I posted use the same cabinet stampings. The same basic unit is also sold branded as Frigidaire.

Need I say more?
 
That late model 40"GE looks identical to the 40" Frigidaire in my kitchen, was special ordered in 2008.

Not the best pic of it, but you get the idea.
I'll eventually swap it out with the 1966 GE

And as previously stated the second oven is a joke. You're lucky to squeeze an 11x7 pan in there

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Sam, I don't know if you saw my recent thread "Keeping my 1966 GE Range..." but I have a 1966 GE 40-incher. I came very close to replacing it with a new Frigidaire Professional 40-inch stainless range. But, I happened to run across this site, and realized I had a range worth keeping!

 

Below are pics of my range and the Frigidaire I almost bought to replace it. This Frigidaire is not bad-looking, but it doesn't match the '66 GE in style or features, IMHO.

 

BTW, the 1966 GE side oven is still pretty small, though we find it useful. If you really want a large 2nd oven, you may have to go back to the older GE models with equal-width double ovens.

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Not to bring up a sore subject but unfortunately the stove that started this thread isn't on CL anymore. :(

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Rick (washdaddy):

"Not to bring up a sore subject but unfortunately the stove that started this thread isn't on CL anymore."

This is going to happen once in a while now that Robert has made it possible to revive an older thread. Fortunately, Ben posted the photo when he began the thread, so we have a visual reference in our Archives.
 
Back to the question that resurrected this thread

judyhicks,

 

Can you tell us the model number of your range? It may be on a metal plaque located on the vertical divider between the two storage drawers -- at least that's where it is on my '66 range.

 

If you can tell us the model number, we can check to make sure you got the right heating element. Thanks,

 

Dean
 
Ben:

Do you have any idea what year the range in Eau Claire is?

The reason I ask is that it's so similar to the 1966, yet it has a window in the large oven, which the '66 doesn't have. The handle escutcheons are different, as well.

I'm thinking this could be the '67 TOL 40-incher. If I'm not mistaken, '67 was the year that wall ovens got windows; the '66 P*7s didn't have them, I believe. [this post was last edited: 1/14/2014-18:40]
 
P.S. for Dean:

You mentioned older 40-inchers as having two ovens of equal width.

That's true, but they were usually not of equal capacity - the left oven (underneath the burners) was usually not as tall as the right one, owing to the need for a drip box beneath the burners.

Some brands also put the fuses in this location.
 
Since the older 39"-40" ranges usually had a deep-well cooker, the oven beneath had to be shorter to accomodate it. GE discontinued the deep-well when they came out with the unequal width ovens in '53. Hotpoint kept them for several more years.
 
Pretty much GE was the best-made range in the 40"-model design... (Up until they were no longer "True GE-made"...)

The other brands kind'a became a laughing stock, before wide ranges were no longer common and today the idea of this sort of range is really on the wane...

But some exist & no surprise the trend has gone from open coils to the smooth top & the sealed-burner gas models only differ in how they cook your food...

-- Dave
 
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