Almost 'New' Kitchen Aid KUDJ230YC

[moparwash]

Hardly used...I think it is a Whirlpool made one..If anyone can let me know for sure..the seller just moved in and are redoing the kitchen....here is the quote from the seller..
'I'm not sure I should be replacing it...it works great and the new one is all plastic'...$50 later it is being loaded in the car....

 

[moparwash]

Inside shot...

Yes, that's the 1960 Westy dryer next to it..great condition in here!

 

[pdub]

Yes

it's a Whirlpool made machine but still very nice. Looks to be an Imperial model. Good price - congrats!

 

[stevet]

WP for Sure! With Power Module!

Definitely a Whirlpool built unit.The 22 was the last true Hobart unit. This one has the Power Module in it and will wash your dishes very well too. Looks just like my KDC21-D but mine is a Hobart Built unit and has the same cycles as yours. While mine is a "custom" model, it had the Imperial cycle options on it. Works great and cleans well too. Currently in retirement in the garage. I have a bunch of spare parts for your unit if you should ever need them.They came out of a 23 electronic unit with a bad computer.
Good Luck and Congrats on a good find.
Steve

 

[autowasherfreak]

The Real Deal

When the time comes, I want to replace my portable Whirlpool dishwasher with a portable KitchenAid dishwasher. I want the real thing, and not one made by Whirlpool.

How can tell if it's a genuine KitchenAid or if it was made by Whirlpool?

 

[stevet]

Model Numbers are a start!

Whirlpool put a "U" in all their model numbers starting with the last of the 21 series. They do the same with their own model numbers. So the KDS21 became the KUDS21 etc.
Also, If it was built by Hobart, it had that on the data plate and said Troy, Ohio
WP changed the plate to read KitchenAid made in St Joseph, MO.
That is the give away. All machines prior to the 21 WP built ones are going to be made by Hobart.

BUT!! don't forget.. All the 21 and 22 series were pure Hobart designs withe the Hobart designed pumps. The 23 was a Hobart derived dishwasher but with the Power Module pump installed.
The machines look identical but the pumps are NOT interchangeable. The hole in the sump is smaller than the 18-22 series sump opening. The heating element is also different and of lower wattage,
I just checked availability of some of the parts for the Superba 23 series and already they are being obsoleted. Better start stockpiling them asap!

 

[magic clean]

A bit of KitchenAid

trivia for this model. The letter "J" stood for a coworker named Jessica. Together, we created the Use & Care guides for the 23 series.

A blast from the past!

L.P.

 

[a440]

Very interesting Leslie!
Did you get your initial thrown into any model numbers?
Brent

 

[moparwash]

Cool info!!

Could you send me a use and care manual???

 

[magic clean]

Brent

there were & are KUDL & KUDP but no connection to me. LOL!

Another memorable thing we were able to incorporate into the rapid advance timer model KUDS23 was the "please wait" indicator on the console. This was illuminated while the timer fully reset itself during a cancel/drain. This let the user know to leave the door securely locked until the light went out, before reselecting another cycle etc.

The 23 series also introduced the matte finish chrome cycle buttons, to address the visible fingerprints/smears on the earlier units, the power clean pump, improved sound package and increased height capacity upper rack.

L.P.

 

[magic clean]

Jerry

here ya go.......

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Use%20and%20Care%20Guide%20-%209741254.pdf

 

[dnastrau]

Nice dishwasher

That dishwasher should serve you well; the seller was crazy to dump it in my opinion. That looks exactly like the unit I tried to get my parents to buy in late '91/early '92 but they got a Kenmore (Ultra Wash II if memory serves) instead. They got 14 years out of the Kenmore and it was a good performer but I'll bet they'd still have the KA if they had gotten it instead!

Andrew S.

 

[autowasherfreak]

Great looking machine, may you have many years of clean dishes from it.

 

[moparwash]

Thanks for the link!

Just printed it out!

 

[a440]

Leslie,
I have two of the KUDS23 with the silver buttons. The machines are white.
Interesting about the "Please Wait" indicator. I always wondered why this was added. I thought it was an interesting touch.
Brent

 

[danemodsandy]

Amazing That....

...Someone would get rid of something like that just to be able to say they have a new dishwasher.

God knows I like nice things as much as the next person, but if a nice thing is holding up well, why not save your money until it dies? For people who pay cash, the price of a new KA machine would help anyone's savings or investment accounts, and for someone who can't pay cash, why burden yourself with the interest on such a purchase if you don't have to?

Is a puzzlement!

 

[danemodsandy]

YIKES!!!

Good. God. Almighty.

I just checked the price of a new Superba on the KitchenAid site.

The MSRP for the TOL stainless model is between fourteen and sixteen hundred dollars.

How can it be worth that to anyone, just to say "mine's newer than yours?"

 

[stevet]

Please Wait! Oh give me a break!

Now you all know I am a die hard KitchenAid fan, but "Please wait?"
Who thought that one up?
Surely a light that indicated that the dishes were "Rinsed Only" is alot more useful.
Does anyone really need to be told to wait while the timer advances?
The rinsed only and a clean light are much more functional especially when some machines do a rinse and hold so well that the dishes inside look clean!

And I liked it when they had the cycle indicator light stay on in whatever portion of the cycle it was in if you opened the door.
I am sure we can all relate stories of finding the door to the dishwasher closed and no buttons pressed and open it to find a load of dirty dishes because someone added something to the load and then forgot to press the button again!
Change for the sake of change even at the hands of Kitchenaid engineers is not always for the best!

 

[magic clean]

Brent

the different buttons were on the Superba. I noticed after I re-read the earlier message, that detail was left out. Ooops!

Steve, yes the rinsed only light was nice, however, the reason for the substituting the 'please-wait' light was to cut down on unnecessary service calls. Even today, many users never familiarize themselves with how things work, so back then, that indicator helped the uninitiated when using the cancel-drain.

For some reason with the rapid advance control, there was a period of 15-20 seconds where the unit fell silent, before the timer was fully reset during cancel/drain. If you unlatched, relatched & started a new cycle, before a complete reset, sometimes portions of the new cycle would be skipped, detergent not dispensed etc. This was done to help the customer, not just change for the sake of change.

L.P.