Anyone in the mood for a Bob Load Thread?

[peteski50]

Newer Design Dishwashers!

I agree with what Steve is saying. Their is nothing wrong with newer technology except when it goes several steps backwards. Their is nothing that will ever be made like the older KitchenAid machines. Machines that run 2 plus hours is a big step backwards. I like my GE talltub probably better than most out their but I miss my power clean whirlpool that I should have never given up. And the sad part their is really not a lack of water in this society and a machine that runs such a long time is wasting more energy. Why can't we design these machines??
Peter

 

[logixx]

I'm very happy with our 1 year old Siemens. Its lower spray arm shoots the water right through to the ceiling even if there are dishes in the bottom rack - was very impressed when I saw this.

Alex

 

[rolls_rapide]

The 2-hour cycle...

...was, to my thinking, created because the modern biological detergents required a longer time for their components to act: particularly the oxygen bleaches.

My parents' first dishwasher was a Zanussi, which washed a load at 65degrees C, in about 70minutes. The crockery came out okay with the standard chlorine-based detergents.

However, when the biological formulations first appeared, we noticed that there was a distinct build up of tea stains in the cups, over a period of months.

Switching to the chlorine detergents, removed the stains within a couple of washes.

Even today with the longer cycles, I still find that chlorine detergents bleach better, but the biological detergents are better for starchy deposits.

Is it possible for detergents to be biological, but employ a chlorine bleach?