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These new generation agitator washers that don't rinse are for the birds. Especially when you consider people use regular sudsing detergent in them and they have a relatively low spin speed.

Which brings up a point. Why do they even make regular detergent now days? Why not only make HE? HE cleans great in front or top loading machines. Who needs suds? Suds do not clean your clothes. We are far enough removed from the days of "soap" when suds did indicate whether you had enough product in the water. Instead of 57 kinds of Tide, why not just Tide...no suds and a nice clean scent??
 
Searching this site...

I thought the same thing - perhaps reading the thread that was posted a while back on the Roper Rinse Rash?

 

"The inside of the drum looks clean but here's what you can't see..."  Really?  First day on the job? 

 

I've seen far too many DD washers, and GE ( really, all neutral drainers) that leave a ring of scum around the basket, inside and outside and a horrific ring of scum on the outer tub.  The belt-drive WP-KM washers used a spray rinsing routine that was partially directed at the basket so it had a much better chance of helping keep the machine a bit cleaner.  They've just moved the scum-line to the lower parts of the tub by filling with less water.   Lower and lower fill-levels and little or no spray rinsing to  help clean the machine.  The machines that do have a squirt or two in the final spins direct the water to the bottom of the basket so as to reach the clothes that are lying in a hair and suds covered lump after the draining, but this does nothing for the upper parts of the basket and tub.   Even the washer cleaning products sold will do nothing to clean where the solution cannot reach.  I should post some pics of the DD KitchenAid washer I have in use now.  I've been washing rags from work in it for the last month or so and already there is a line of schmeg on the inside of the basket just around the water line and I know there has to be worse around the parts we can't see.  I'm going to move some of the machines around again (like changing handbags for spring & summer :-) so I'll pull the cabinet off of it and have a look.  I already know what I'll find.  I've had DD machines that while going over and cleaning them to ready for re-sale, have used a paint scraper to remove the scum from the top of the outer tub and tub rings. 

 

Feh.  I'll keep my vintage machines.
 
Leave it to the manufacturer to blame it on the quality of the water. They'll never admit that the real problem is the fact that they designed the machine to rinse a full load of clothes on a small water level setting. This is the same machine that was posted on here recently. She needs to address Whirlpool with the fact that it is NOT her water since her previous washer rinsed with no problem. You can't have rinse water levels in a top loading machine, that is better designed for full water usage. If the rinse cycle is going to be that low, then they should at least have a 30 second spin spray between the wash and rinse cycles when the washer has reached full spin speed. Not a total solution to the problem, but I would think the results would be a bit better than they are. And with that spin spray and low level rinse, you would still be saving water compared to a high water level rinse, that is, if you are really concerned with water conservation.
 
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Thanks, Dadoes for correcting the link!  Interesting in that that link was left over from a much earlier posting.

 

Anyway - at least the story is available to those who wish to read.

 

Lawrence
 
The front-loader version of this is observable when last rinse looks like first wash when using the prescribed amount of HE detergent.
 
If they ramped up the spin speed and directed more intermittent water sprays over the entire tub they might get better results. I think they are taking short cuts in their designs to be cost effect during production.

Aren't consumers instructed to use HE detergents in these types of machines already? Though, just because there isn't 'suds' still doesn't mean clothes are rinsed proper.
 
Rapunzel, don't you find it funny too how they cut corners like that to keep costs down yet they still charge way too much for the dumb things?
 
This woman is illogical.

She complains that the washing machine is using too much water. But then she complains that there are suds in her rinse water and she frequently has to do another rinse cycle. (Using even more water)

She obviously is not aware that water rinses clothing.

I think what she wants is a washer that doesn't use water but will wash and rinse her clothing perfectly.

Lady, your dream doesn't exist, yet.
 
I would fill that horrible machine to the proper level with my Lowes bucket!Or--if you can-adjust the fill level control.If its tamperproof-use the bucket-Folks--its time to SCRAP these stupid water rules!Causing more greif than solving problems.this is what you get when you have poloticians involved with appliance regulations-they know NOTHING about washers and such!Keep them out of it!!
 
^ ^ ^ +1.

Politicians should NOT be designing washers. They probably don't even own one. They have their illegal-alien maid send laundry out to a service that does NOT "rinse" in a figurative teacup of water.

With 1/1000th what politicians fritter watering their landscape, everybody in the country could fully rinse their laundry.
 
No bad rinsing here !

I can make my washer do 2 3 4 5 rinses if I choose and it takes in extra water if selected never have an issue with bad rinsing with Miele. Nor with my twin tubs as I rinse as often as I want :)

Austin
 
If the woman had any kind of front loader she would have used less water than that machine and had clothes better cleaned and rinsed!

This new era of top loaders, while never used one disgusts me! The old water guzzler machines surely did their job but this is just shameful, I'd call it a plain fraud!
And what about the increased wear of the clothes subjected to that torment?!
 

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