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One of the most difficult terms for me to assimilate back when I was learning German was the word "Gegner".
Now, if you look it up in a dictionary, you'll find several possible translations into English, ranging from foe to rival to disputer to opponent.

It makes the term hard to understand as the relevant meaning is determined both by the context as well as by the colouration given to the term verbally (this is atypical for the German language which is quite pedantic about splitting hairs on even the most abstract concepts and strives to avoid any construction which is subject to being heard instead of read to be fully understood).

We have, I think, a similar problem right now in our culture wars. You're either on my side or you're a Nazi. Or a commie-pinko-socialist.
Or a fascist-Marxist-socialist, which I've actually been called before, never mind that I am none of the three and there is no possible combination of the three which can be true at the same time, and, no, the National Socialists were not socialist in any sense of the word.

We need to get beyond this if we are going to stop losing the gay marriage battles, if we are going to find a way to stop the erosion of politics into the morass. Or, if we are going to avoid what is increasingly looking like the inevitable torture and murder of our homosexual brothers and sisters in Uganda.

Yes, it is undeniable that the Uganda regime was facilitated by Republicans and fundamentalist, evangelical and conservative American Christians.
Does this necessarily mean that we must now abandon our gay sisters and brothers to their fate because the only possible relationship for people on the left and the right is as "foes"?

This little blog entry is, I think, a step in the right direction. I thought it might be interesting. I stepped out of the Ugandan thread so as not to be the focus point for our usual arguments. If anyone is interested in the article or the concept, maybe we can talk about it in this thread and leave that thread to the enormously important task of warning us that Nazi Germany is not a country or people, but a state of mind, anywhere and anywhen.

 
Panthera...

Could you explain this:

>Yes, it is undeniable that the Uganda regime was facilitated by >Republicans and fundamentalist, evangelical and conservative >American Christians.

What do you mean here? Last I know, Uganda was part of the British Empire since the 1800s and had little to do with America at all.

Hunter
 
Hunter,

Yes, Uganda is part of the Commonwealth. This is why Canada, Elizabeth, Sweden, Germany, The Netherlands, the EU, etc. are making gradual headway with boycott threats and cutting off economic aid. Uganda will soon be financially independent, but at the moment, they still need foreign money.

To sum things up: In a few words, the situation is as follows. Uganda began to cope with the Aids crisis a few years back with an A, B, C program. Abstain, Be faithful, use Condoms.

The program attracted world-wide attention because it was working well at a time when most programs in Africa were failing.

Here's the link to what happened next. It is not pretty. It is on the same level as the geocentric view of the solar system.

The Bush #43 administration, together with the Catholic Church and the christianists, killed the highly successful Ugandan ABC program to stop Aids.

In its place, they had the complete disaster of "Abstinence Only" put in place. Tens of thousands have been infected since, the decline in new infections was turned around. Which, of course, is what the Republicans and christianists wanted - dead Negroes and, with a bit of luck, dead gay Negroes.

Several prominent Republican Senators and Congressmen, together with Rick Warren brought politicians whom they preferred over decent people to power in the country and, this spring, a group of American Evangelical "Christians" helped write the legislation which ended in declaring the death penalty for being gay, seven years prison for not denouncing gay men and even extradition for gay Ugandans.

This link is very good on the matter, interestingly, several of the Repubublicans directly involved are either under indictment or in trouble for screwing women they weren't married to at the time in the US:


Some of those "Christians" involved are now saying it ain't so, but there's video documentation and their signatures on too many documents, they can bear as much false witness as they like, but they were there and they did it.

This link is to a website which has a solid list of stories on the situation in Uganda, beginning in the early summer and updated regularly.
You'll find comprehensive links to reputable sites and summaries of what's going on there as well as direct connections to specific US politicians and evangelical "Christians".

From there, you can pick it up at Rachel Maddow. She has done outstanding work on covering this disaster, this link is to a video clip summing things up:

Here's a perspective on it from the Christian (but not christianist) right:

I think this is a better answer than my simply naming names and pointing fingers.

The whole thing, as Tomturbomatic put it in another link, is so incredibly like the Nazi takeover of Germany, that many conservative Americans are simply refusing to believe it and are either saying nothing or attacking true Christians and the Jewish helping organizations for bringing it up. Right now, sadly, horribly, we have exactly the worst possible clear example of just why I've been saying for years that there is a difference between the Left and the Right.
 

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