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I am amazed at how people will run their dishwashers with so little in it. What a waste!! There are two of us and everything goes in it apart from aluminium and wooden spoons. I cram it full, using every available space before I run it. It is a Bosch and I have had it for 3 years and it is a complete workhorse. Everything comes out spotless everytime, I wouldn't dream of putting it on unless it was full, full, full. Same as laundry, I wouldn't run my washer without a full load. My brother and his wife put their DW on with about ten items in it. I was shocked!!
 
A loooooong time ago, I think it was even on our Yahoo club, Jason posted a drawing of a woman (with a cigarette?) who said something like: "Their should be support groups for women who still prerinse" or something like that. I couldn't find it on my computer, it's probably on my old one and I don't have access to those files anymore. Does somebody have it?
 
pre-rinsing

I stopped pre-rinsing way back in '78 with purchase of my electronic KM. Had a hell of a time convincing everyone NOT to pre-rinse though, used to catch people doing it all the time. Finally got everybody "trained"
 
plastic item drying

I have yet to see a dishwasher where the plastic items come out totally dry, even using the heated drying cycle and/or extra hot final rinse. There is ALWAYS some water on plastic items, when everything else is absolutley dry and even too hot to touch.
 
The totally dry

When I was a loyal Kitchen Aid Dishwasher owner before they basterdized it. My supurba would never have a wet dish or wet plastic piece in it especially when the sani rinse was used. The fan drying was one of the better features on that machine with the best washing action also. But alas when my KD died I went looking for parts and found an ASKO top of the line at Salvation Army for 10.00 and it workes beautiful with only five gallons of water total for the heavy cycle. Since I am on a septic tank and live in a swamp the Asko became the indoor dishwasher since it was also so very very quiet ( very open floor plan two stories high) so quiet in fact that my partner opened it a couple of times while it was running. Now he feels the dishwasher for vibrations to see if it is running. The kitchen aid is in my outdoor kitchen with a new motor going strong
 
to pre-rinse or not to pre-rinse

Bob (appnut):

I will (scrape scrape) really try (scrape scrape) not to pre-rinse or clean off (scrape scrape) my dishes before I load them in the dishwasher. Actually, I did much better last night. The dog was in the kitchen, and, you know......she kind of helped ;-)

I think the cleaning-the-dishes-before-I-clean-the-dishes thing
is a holdover from my no dishwasher days. I grew up without one and didn't have a dishwasher until I was an adult.

Louis: Is that pre-rinsing support group still in existence? Do you have a website address? :)

Will try harder, but need your support. ;-)

Venus
 
Salt Dispenser

Hi Guys,

In AU, the Whirlpools, Bosch, AEG, all lack the salt dispenser. In the last series TOL Whirlpool DW I picked up last weekend, there is a plastic plate where the salt filler goes but nothing underneath.

it only seems to be Miele that gets a water softener in AU.
 
Venus/Austin,

So how's it going with your new DW? Any pics yet?

Jaune,

All the Bosch and AEG dishwasher I've used have managed to get the plastic dry, and thats in a 20 min condenser drying cycle without heat.

Jon
 
rinse aid

Retro,

Unless I missed it in someones post, sorry if I did. Are you using rinse aid? If you are not then you should. Its not really an option but with most of todays newer dishwashers its a must. The bosch will not dry with out it. If you are using it then you may want to try a higher number setting. As far as dring plastics, mine never did thoroughly dry them. But it cleans great, its very quiet so I can live with that small short comming.
 
plastic drying

I could never get my KM to cmpletely dry plastic even using Sani-Temp final rinse, rinse aid, AND heated drying. There would be a lot FEWER drops of water if I used those 3 options but the plastic items would still never be COMPLETELY dry.
 
Bosch, etc.

Scott:

You bet I use a rinse-aid! Our water is so hard here, you have to chop it out of the faucet ;-)

Jaune:

I find that the more I use the dishwasher, the dryer the plastics seem to get. Yes, there are still a few drops left on some items, but gosh...this is such a great dishwasher. It's a small sacrifice considering the Hotpoint left flakes of dishwasher detergent inside the glasses and wouldn't even dispense all of the detergent. Blech! >:(

Phillipe:

I had to laugh; I will walk by the dw to make sure it's on. Yes, it really is that quiet. After all the noise the bol Hotpoint made, it's almost hard to get used to "no noise". Can't believe you found an Asko at the SA for $10.00! What a deal. My only question is, "Why the heck would someone get rid of that!!". Pass along some of that serendipity please :)

Venus
 
Jon,

I did not see any mention in my manual about adding additional detergent for a prewash. If you want to see the American Bosch dishwasher manual, you can download it from the link below.

The way mine works, it starts with a brief, 1 minute quick rinse at the beginning of the cycle. I guess it would rinse the majority of any additional detergent down the drain anyway. I initially thought that prewash detergent may interfere with the water sensor, but I don't think that is the reason why there is no prewash dispenser. I think that it is just not needed.

The way the normal cycle seems to always run is first the very brief 1 minute quick rinse. Then, it will "rinse" for about 20 minutes, and the detergent cup opens. I assume if the load was dirtier, there would be a water change before the detergent cup opens and the wash starts. It washes for about 35 minutes. Then it has two rinses, the first lasts for about 8 minutes, the second is much longer, I assume because it has to heat the water. Don't forget, we only have 110v power to the dishwasher, so it takes longer to heat the water, though we don't start with cold water. My hot water is around 120F (49C) at the faucet.

Joe

 

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