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As you can tell from the topic, not exactly the most cheerful of news and knowing how much we all probably enjoyed helping with the washing, it could quite easily have been one of us....

 

If there is anything to be learnt from this its:

 

- know what your children are doing at all times; and

- mechanical and electronic safety devices can, and do, fail.

 

I only hope the poor little bugger recovers quickly.

 
Im from Crewe!

It happened in the town where I live,

Our local rag, The Crewe Chronicle which has a new edition every Wednesday had this as todays headlines.

No mention of what make it is though!
 
and im just waiting

for the FL hating squad to start on about this incident.

God knows how it happened but Im not so sure that it is actually the machines fault. Never come across any FL in my experience where the door has not locked, these mechanisms are pretty reliable in that sense.

I think there is more than meets the eye and I suspect the machine was damaged in the first place possibly by a naughty tot or a careless parent.

Would love to know who had rented it to her, local washer rentals dont exist, I suspect some kind of "Bright House" company but you usually get a brand new machine when renting with those from what I gather and thus the switch would not have been bypassed by an engineer.

Who knows. Possibly more info in next weeks Chronny.
 
Horrible...

The Daily Mail reckons it was a Creda 800, and it had been hired from a local company.

 

Presumably the interlock had been disabled or damaged. It'll be interesting to know which, and whether the rental firm were responsible for the fault.

 

Poor kid, and poor family, hope they recover as well as can be expected.

 
Foul Play

Well it says that the machine was a rental, so if the rental companies there are anything like they are here I'm not all that surprised. I can see it now; the interlock safety on the machine was broken, but instead of being bothered with losing out on money for it to be repaired properly and safely they band-aid it and send it along with a bypassed safety so they can continue to profit from it. Purely speculation, but I don't think it's far from the truth, I've seen what rental companies do to things.

Tragic

-Tim
 
I say ban them!

Not only do they not use enough water, they take too long to wash and, apart from exploding drums/cabinets, shattered glass doors, drowned and mangled children, broken and sore backs from too much crouching and bending, clothes falling on the ground during unloading; they are an abomination.

Personally, I think they are part of a global conspiracy where governments are conspiring to have these satanic devices infiltrate every home so they can take over our laundries and devour our children.

On a more serious note, I can't even begin to imagine the horror this poor mother felt. It just goes to show that one should never leave little kids unsupervised near any kind of machinery.
 
You don't want to know how close that came to happening to me when I was 5. I stuck my hand in after the machine had shut off but was still moving. The fabric wrapped around my hand and I couldn't get it free. Fortunately the fabric had enough slack to just knot up while the drum stopped and nothing heinous happened.

My Frigiwhite FL will not operate at all if the door lock is not engaged. The timer closes the lock and the lock closes the door switch. Let us know if the machine turns out to have been tampered.
 
 I think Rapunzel was lampooning opponents of FL machines rather than the kiddie.

 

This sort of accident shouldn't occur at all in theory; since 1974 front loaders sold in the UK are legally required to stay locked while the drum is in motion, and fail-safe. Before then, some machines incorporated a switch that shut off power if the door was opened, but the drum would still be coasting to a stop; other machines had lockable doors, but could still be opened whilst running.

 

It does seem very unlikely damage through use or misuse could cause this; the mother doesn't strike me as being well off, and 'bargain' rented goods can be very dodgy - years ago some friends and I hired a Ford Transit van - it was old, there were several inches of play either way in the steering, and it would slow to 30mph on hills - I was the only one who could drive, and the move involved driving 400 miles, mostly on motorways. Not an experience I wish to repeat!
 
this is my only post about this in this subject

to me thats yet another proof that a topload washer with a safety switch that prevents the washer from stating the agitator is a much safer washer to use maybe they should put a similar feature in fl washer that would automaticaly pause the washer if the door was open by mistake to stop the drum druing when the door is open in the middle of the cycle or its a faulty lock on the door.
 
Pierre

I think you missed the point. The washer had a safety switch, and they have had for years, this one either malfunctioned or was bypassed, which was the topic of more discussion. Also, to all, a spinning top-loader is just as dangerous as is a wringer. This one was terribly unfortunate in that it seriously injured a child. It's also hard to call it poor parenting because the machine malfunctioned. That would be like calling it bad parenting to let your child play in a room, but someone removed all of the supports for the walls and the room collapsed. Supervision goes so far, and face it you can't be with them at all seconds of the day.

-Tim
 
Nobody called anyone a poor parent

Though, little kids do have a knack for getting themselves into pickles due to their natural curiosity and inability to understand danger.

I seriously doubt that the mother was aware that the door lock mechanism had failed and she felt completely safe leaving her kid near the machine unsupervised. Unfortunately, in her case, Murphy's law applied.

It is also correct that one can't be with the bairns every second of the day. But, if leaving them out of sight, put them somewhere where they are least likely to come to harm, like a play pen for example. I would never, ever leave any little humans under the age of 6 near any major appliances (whether working or not) ever, but that's just me.
 
Faulty door interlock

Poor child.

I remember several years ago, nearer the turn of the century, the consumer programmes on tv were on about Indesit machines that had faulty door interlocks that could be opened during operation.

There was a product recall, and it involved the colour of the interlock: black ones and white ones, one of which was the faulty kind.

I still think that the 1980s and 1990s Hoover Electronic/Electron/Logic/EcoLogic machines had it right: lock the door electrically AND mechanically. Electrically, by means of the bi-metallic heater interlock. Mechanically, by linkages on the programmer to door interlock. The dial had to be at the "OFF" position, and the 2 mins had to elapse too before the door could be opened.

The cheaper foreign machines only had the electrical interlock. I wonder if the rogue machine was a cheapened range from Indesit?
 
same happened here in Brazil some years ago...

the machine was 10+ years old (Electrolux). the door lock was damaged and the owner simply found a way to remove the lock and bypass it instead of fixing it. The machine had a huge rubber band to keep the door closed.

The parents sued Electrolux... AND WON!

Simply ridiculous! Just like the woman that sued Nestlé because the hurted herself trying to open a can of condensed milk using a knife instead of a can opener. Guess what... Nestlé had to pay a millionaire indenization (for a finger that was completely healed in less than 5 days) because the can had no detailed opening instructions.

Indenization for what? personal injury for a cut as small as a papercut? Moral losses because it was ashaming to let her friends see she was with a bandaid on her finger? Oh.. I know... maybe the phychological trauma was so big that she would have a panic crisis every time she saw a condensed milk pudding or a passion fruit mousse...

People can do "wonders" do get some easy money, specially if they know the pay check can have more than 7 digits before the comma.

Dozens try to sue manufacturers every year in Brazil. and the arguments are the most ridiculous one could imagine.

Electrolux top loaders had the high speed solenoid brake (some models still have it). if the lid is lifted only a few milimeters, the brake goes off and stop the 800rpm drum in less than 3 seconds. It's so strong that the noise is loud as a small bomb and if it were only a few miliseconds faster, the whole machine would move. Even with so fast brakes, some people found their ways to have some kind of accident and then sue electrolux.

No matter what happens, here the manufacturer is always guilty. That's sad.

Oh, and front loaders are much safer than top loaders. two cases happened in Brazil, one with a Mabe washing machine (impeller type, BOL automatic) and other with Mueller (semi automatic, all plastic, that here we call it "tanquinho" (little laundry sink) because this machine is nothing more than a laundry sink with a small impeller on the side)

on both cases children climbed on chairs to watch the machine running and ended falling upside down in the machine. I don't even want to write what happened next. It's horrible, the worst thing happened.

The best solution for washing machines was always good sense. Of course a lid switch or a lid lock may prevent accidents to any of us. The same way the safety belts, air bags and other safety devices reduce the chance of injuries or deaths in a car accident, but don't eliminate the risk.

Only God knows when we can be focused on other things and simply open the machine and reach the tub while it's spinning, the machine will react to reduce the chance of injuries but... It's impossible to any manufacturer to prevent stupid parents and make a machine 500000000% safe.
Children are curious, specially about washing machines, with all the noises, the water, blinking LEDs and beeps. A good mother will always take care of their children and never let them next to a running washing machine at the same time she gossips with the neighbor on the street. 2 minutes is more than enough for an accident to happen.

I remember MY mother used to keep me far from the Bendix Economat or our first Brastemp when I was a kid. If I wanted to watch it, (I always wanted LOL) I had to call her and she'd take me to the machine and stay next to me all the time. And I was afraid to touch it (even the cabinet) because decades ago MY mom told me several times that it was atractive, but very dangerous for small children like me.

Luckily the accident you mentioned above wasn't so serious. The worst didn't happen and I hope the kid get well soon and I also hope his family learn with this traumatic incident and many other parents read these newspaper and it can be useful to prevent other incidents or accidents.
 
Judges who make poor decisions and lawyers who see an opportunity to make money, even though the later mentioned know the case is unsubstantial are the problem and where the instance is a poor ruling and the claimant is awarded an absorbent amount of money. Sometimes getting to the bottom of a case is made difficult when it isn't properly investigated and when unscrupulous people see free money. But it isn't free. It trickles back down to everyone in higher priced goods and equipment that has to be made dummy-proof, which makes the equipment more complicated and less user friendly.

I've noticed over the years that the general population has less common sense than it used to. It seems we're turning out more ignorant people all the time or people that are trained in one field only. I'm not saying this was the case with the unfortunate woman who's son was mangled. Just a general statement. Bring back the Renaissance man.
 

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