Buying a new Front Loader (Miele?)

[bobbins]

Within the next year or so I will be renovating my kitchen and looking in upgrading my appliances. Obviously I love to get a Sub – Zero fridge, Commercial Stove...this may not be within our budget.

Currently I have a 2 year old Whirlpool 24” Front loading washer (for my suite kitchen – under the counter). The capacity is OK, 1200 rpm extraction! Several months ago the cheap plastic handle broke. The washer was under an extended warranty contract through SEARS. The part took 8 weeks to arrive. The repair said Whirlpool stop making this washer (actually this model was made in Italy (heck I am Italian!) – I believe Eurotech is the same machine). Parts will be difficult to get.

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Are there any one out there with good experiences with 24” size Front Loaders (BOSCH, Miele, Maytag, Samsung, etc) I am considering a Miele – but the cost.

Has anyone had any experiences with the Miele Professional series?

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The dishwasher looks awesome – only 26 minutes to do a full cycle!

Bob

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[askomiele]

Why a professional miele?
Every miele is very good! Look to the options, spin speed you need and you can buy any miele you want!
Even a 5.5 kg capacity is good for an undercounter machine! The machine is also available in stainless steel!
Professional machines are expensive and for 10-12 loads a day!
But a domestic miele is build to hard use also so just go out there and buy miele
(omg I would be so good as a miele salesperson;D)

 

[Hometechdoc]

I hve the 6kg Miele in Stainless Steel and love it

I have a 24" Miele Washer and dryer (220v) and love them. The newer models are 5.5Kg (120v)and these can be built in under a counter.

I have also used the little giant, the 6kg professional mashine. It is awesome and fast, but at over $5,000 retail, a bit pricey, but it does heat to 200F and has dozens of cycles and options. My 6kg heats to 190 and th 5.5 Kg will probably only heat to 170, I am not sure of that.

 

[launderess]

5.5kg Units

The new 120v 30** series only reach 158F, per the owner's manual. Also like the new uber-sized/120v Miele washer that Miele introduced to the US eariler this year, the smaller units do not heat water in all cycles, especially "Normal". You can however create and store several custom cycles to work around the matter.

Consider also the smaller units cannot be hooked up to cold water only, well rather one can but it requires a Y-connection. Machine must have water coming into both hot and cold water inlets.

One maddening thing about these new Miele washers, is a lack of information as to what the pre-set cycles actually have.

L.

 

[timon90]

I just say Asko

 

[panthera]

Before you believe Sears Service...

Any time Sears says a Whirlpool made or marketed part is not available, just assume they are lying through their teeth.
It didn't even take two minutes to find this particular part at one of the many American online suppliers. Sure, it is back-ordered, but they are reliable about saying it is no longer stocked when that is the case.
The Italians build millions of lower to mid-range washers every year. Most of the parts are used and reused over years and years, if not decades.

http://www.repairclinic.com/

 

[funguy10]

I just say Asko

Wow! That is a fancy looking machine! You said it is an Asko but what kind of Asko? Tell me more information about it.

 

[nmaineman36]

Miele

Get yourself a Miele. They are wonderful to use and once you use one you wont go back. They do make a super capacity washer and dryer...what passes for "super capacity" for them. I have the Mega Mieles that are 27 inches wide each. I know that they are a tad pricey at first but in the long run the cost isnt really that bad if you think about it. They make your clothes last longer and use only the amount of water and energy to do the job. The dryer is awesome. These would probably be the last set you would have to buy for a long time unless you get tired of them.

 

[funguy10]

O.K. Never mind. Here is the Asko washer posted above. It is just the model posted without the glass door.

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[bobbins]

Hey thanks guys!! Great Information. I was seriosly considering getting an Asko (much cheaper). I haven't heard too much about them. However, the Miele - seems to be the cats meow!

Bob

 

[nmaineman36]

meow meow meow

 

[sudsmaster]

Before you buy any import machine, Bob, you might want to make sure that there is adequate service, support, and parts availability for your area.

That said, my preference among the imports would be a 220 volt Miele (if your laundry area has 220 volt service or if not, if you're willing to have it re-wired). It sounds like you can't fit anything bigger than a 24 inch wide model, so the Miele 48xx series is probably out, as well as most of the better US-made front loaders (well, I guess only the Frigidaire Affinity is made in the USA these days, and it's 27 inch).

My second choice would be a Bosch.

Third choice would be an Asko, mainly because they seem to have had a spotty reliability and service availability record in the USA. But if you think your local dealer can get you good warranty service/support, why not?

 

[hilovane]

I have an Asko washer and dryer (W600/T700) for over seven years, and once you get past their smaller capacity, they're exceptional machines; easily comparable to Miele, IMO.

 

[bobbins]

Yes I have to agree it is the service, next the capacity and finally the RPM. I have been a strong supporter for North American Made products (mainly because of service). However, there seem to be more European made products being imported in to Canada and US, I guess in time parts and service will not be an issue. I am currenlty looking at a 24" Miele, Bosch and Asko laundry equipment.

The Miele Professional / commercial dishwasher turns my crank – the quick speed to do a load of dishes and reliability of a commercial product. All the new dishwashers out there in the market seem to run for minimum 90 or so minutes to do a load dishes. I regrettable bought two TOL Kitchen Aid dishwashers for my suite and unit. I have a brand new dishwasher in storage when I decide move out of my suite to renovate my kitchen. 3 years ago I had a Bosch Dishwasher and LOVED it in my condo. Although the Bosch ran for a long time – the dishes came out CLEAN every time and it was extremely quiet. My current Kitchen Aid is quiet, but not quite as quiet as the Bosch. I rather have the OLD KA KD-11 any day with a cast iron spray arm – hearing the thrashing of water for only 20 minutes.

In the 70's my aunt ran a kitchen in her house at the farm. She had a commercial SS Hobart Dishwasher with a cast Iron Spray arm...I would love to get my hands on one that. Does anyone have an OLD Hobart commercial with a cast iron spray arm for sale?

Bob

 

[irishwashguy]

Get the Miele

i had considered getting the Bosch, this is before the big machines were out. The Miele just looked better, better built.You don't have buyers remorse when you buy the best. I have had my W1213 washer and the matching dryer in white and love them.If you do plan to have them only hooked up to cold, you need to use the Y so both inlets are getting water into them, other wise you will get a water intake falt. They do heat the water, once piece of advice that I have for using them when the intake water is a little chilly( under 37 f) is to use the costom setting. The machine comes with preset programs, however, if the intake water is to cold, the machine will have an intake fault , and will tell you so. i like my own costom programs anyway, so I have gotten used to it. It however has never done this on the Normal program.Weird huh! Having the machien hooked to both hot and cold will help to reduse your program times. As far as service in the Ca, there is plenty. They sell alot more Miele in Canada that in the US hands down. I called them about three years ago before I bought mine, just to see what they woud say, they are profesional and told me that Canada is a big market for them.I love my machies and would not have anything else. Oh! and the dryer is a reverse action dryer that does not get as hot as your typical American dryer.When you take the clothes out, they do not as hot to the touch.