Can vintage freezers rival new ones? ( energy efficiency )

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Although Freezers, Great VINTAGE, OLD:

I'm not sure how repairable my in-laws' former Gibson '70's Upright Frost-Clear &/or '80's Montgomery Ward no-name cube could have been--both leaked water & the latter's insulation from the weight of the lid became deteriorating foam! (The older former was actually the later bought, after the newer, latter just quit working...)

-- Dave
 
Can I just say

I hate fridge/freezer combos. I just kinda hate them. If it were up to me, I'd have an industrial fridge, and an industrial freezer, just like at the grocery store.

1) Everyone should totes get a kill-o-whatever and send in those numbers for your old/new freezers. I wonder how the vintage uprights do. It would not surprise me in the least if the numbers were all over the place. I bet some old brands don't age as well, or the different conditions like fullness or location have a part to play.

2) I don't care if its a new or old freezer, I would want the food in there to be able to stay good for at least 2 days, at least. No matter if your old freezer finally gives up the ghost, or if your new one runs thru it's planned life cycle, I'd want to know I would at least have 2 days.

3) Combo52, tell me more of these modern compressors because everything I'm reading, and I mean everything seems to say that there is the potential for these energy-star darlings to basically work themselves to death. It's the efficiency trade-off I guess. And everything I've been hearing is that these freezers are going to last 15 years tops. Please, please, tell me more!

*And as far as old stuff running better... I mean yeah, I have the vintage hobart KA dishwasher, but... this is a freezer. I mean, a Manual. Defrost. Chest. Freezer. Is there anything inherently simpler? I'm thinkin' no. So maybe new isn't so awful.
 
surprise! surprise!.....they do make, in fact JohnL and myself have a set of ALL fridges, and ALL Freezers....

they fit side by side if needed, giving the look of a side by side, just wider!

if I am correct, his has the ice maker built inside...and the units are built in to his kitchen layout.....if I had the space, mine would be too....

check the link, Sears still has them.....

http://www.sears.com/kenmore-16.7-c...erId=Sears&prdNo=21&blockNo=21&blockType=G21#
 
On this side of the pond

We have a Liebherr chest freezer from some time in the early 2000s and a small build in upright IKEA from 2012 I think.

When the build in AEG that came with the kitchen in 1987 broke, I emailed them about the consumption, and the reply stated it uses about 1kWh per day. The new replacement, while being in the lower end of todays efficency ratings (A+ on a scale from A to A+++), uses half that, saveing us about 5€ a month.
And that is on a really small model with only about 3.6ft³.

However, when we were deciding if we should replace our ~10 year old build in fridge after one of the hinges broke, it turns out that we would only save like 1-2€ a month with a A+++ rated fridge.

So, I think with really old cooling appliances, savings can be really big.

On the topic of NoFrost freezers (that's what hey are called here), a sales person here once made a really good point:
For a freezer that is used as a long term storage and thus isn't opend that often, there is verry little air exchange happening that could cause ice buildup. There, automatic defrosting can have negative effects due to temperature fluctuations and the higher energy usage of the defrost cycles.
For freezers opend more frequenly, the slightly reduced holding time of food dosen't matter as much and due to the faster ice buildup from more frequent opening, a NoFrost system has less of an impact on the efficency due to the better efficency of heat exchange without ice buildup.

On inverters: I know that a lot of really high efficency fridges and freezers over here do use inverter controlled compressors. Most give a 10 year warranty on compressor and inverter.
In theory, a well controlled inverter cooling system can keep food fresher for longer with less energy usage.
Instead of cycleing on and off, an inverter system is usually designed to run non-stop, with the lowest power setting being just enough to compensate for heat loss via insulation. That keps the temperature really consistent in theory and saves energy and wear as normal compressors have high start-up currents.
If the door is opend and&#92or fresh food is added, power is ramped up immediatley and temperature loss is compensated rapidly.
Some systems go as far as to learn the day&#92night cycle: The first few days after turning on, they run with a slightly higher temperature reserve and check when the doors are opend and when not. Then, they adapt and allow for bigger temperature tollerances during phases of the day when doors are less likely to be opend and thus need lower compressor power during that time.
 
Don't poo poo energy efficient refrigeration...

Here in California electricity use above a subsistence level (@ $0.20/KWh) costs nearly $0.30/KWh. In most households refrigeration is a major, if not the major, consumer of electrical energy. Therefore getting an energy star refrigeration unit definitely can cut one's energy bills, and is nothing to scoff at.

In the past if you wanted separate upright freezers and fridges, you had to get commercial units which were rarely if ever energy efficient. I guess now there are Energy Star versions, although I haven't seen them. I get by with an Energy Star fridge/freezer and an energy efficient chest freezer. By replacing 70's-80's era units with Energy Star units (circa 2000) I cut refrigeration energy consumption by 2/3. Again, nothing to sneeze at. About 3200 KWh/yr down to about 1200 KWh/yr. At $.30/KWh, that's $600/yr saved. Not inconsequential!
 
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