Dishwasher Rinsing

[llmaytag]

I'm curious, which of the new model dishwasher models have the most rinses after wash? My Whirlpool has the single purge then one full rinse after most cycles, and only two full rinses for the Pots & Pans or Hi-temp cycles. I always use a Hi-temp or Pots & Pans because I don't think that very short purge and one rinse is enough.

 

[appnut]

You know how to get around the situation that you do not like. What's the problem? Whirlpool makes KitchenAid, Kenmore, Maytag, and their own brand. That leavse Frigidaire which is basically crap. Electrolux is a gloried Frigidaire. GE is the onhly domestic brand that offers more than one rinse but most machines now have soil sensors which automatically reduce rinses unless you use the same type of options. Bosch probably has 2 rinses after wash on the normal cycle. That's about it. I have a Kenmore Elite and I have no problems with the single main rinse after the purge. also my soil level is high enough it automatically opts for the higher soil level and rinse instead of purge. U.S. dishwashers have to adhere to DOE Energy Star goals. I recently saw a lady complain about her GE not washing or drying as well as her frien's Bosch. I guess she didn't get out the two manuals and compare how each approaches washing. For the most part, the Bosch has higher water temp targets as default values for its cycles. The GE defaults to lower water tempts and the user has to selct the higehr heat options to equal what the Bosch does standard. Same way when KitcgenAid was sourcing its drawer dishwashers form F&P. Coomparable wash cycle labels. The U.S. version, pretty much all the cycles were the equavelent of the F&P cycles but with the eco option selected for each of those cycles. bottom line, in order to get more of what you're "used to from the old days" out of a modern dishwasher, you have to opt for the more aggressive cycles and higher temp options. It's reality.

 

[logixx]

Our Bosch will do two or three rinses after the main wash - even on Quick Wash. It can also add purges before and/or after the first rinse. I am 99% sure Miele will also run at least two post-wash rinses. Euro dishwashers can get away with running more rinses because the fill with less water than US machines.

Alex

 

[jlbrazil]

My Whirlpool (made in germany) usually does 2 rinses , rarelly only one , but then when it rinses only 1 time she increases the temperature (70-75) to compensates the only one rinse

 

[llmaytag]

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Yes, Frigidaire dishwashers are pretty crummy. When my Mom moved about a decade back, there was a new BOL Frigidaire tall tub. Ugh! Miserable performance. Didn't clean well, and if you didn't pre-rinse dishes it left all kinds of crap in the tub. We replaced it with a Kenmore sensing short-tub which is much better. I tell my Mom to always use the hi-temp option to assure two full rinses.

(Funny, story on the Kenmore. When it was installed the detergent dispenser wouldn't open. Two repair guys came out, replaced the motor/solenoid that releases the detergent door twice and were ready to replace the who machine until I went over one night and realize that the lower rack was in backwards!)

My Whirlpool is a short tub, (cannot recall the model), with silverware in the door (anywhere basket), and I usually use the Normal wash with hi-temp to get a full pre-rinse and two full final rinses. I still feel compelled to rinse again afterward which I used to do with my old dial machine. On the dial machine, when it would fill for the final rinse, I could turn it back to the "rinse and hold" spot which would effectively give me three rinses, with only the final getting the rinse aid. On the new machine, I can't really do that. I can do a rinse-only afterward, but I know I don't get the hi-temp or the rinse aid.

 

[jerrod6]

My Miele Dw is not all that new since I purchased it in 2006. For most cycles it always does at least 2 full rinses after the wash, and the sensor(auto) cycle will do 3 full rinses if the load contains heavy soil, or pasta/starch items. The Sani cycle will always do 3 rinses after the main wash, but it does not have a prewash.

The DW takes less than a gallon of water for each fill depending on the load size - except when using the Normal cycle which takes a larger quanity of water for each fill - each fill takes more water than any other programs fills including heavy soil, sani,or starch, and it will take the water regardless of load size..wash 1 dish...you get a higher level fill. The soil sensor is also not active in this program, so I never use the Normal cycle and instead use other ones.. and my wash/rinse results are excellent.

 

[toggleswitch]

Quote: I could turn it back to the "rinse and hold" spot which would effectively give me three rinses, with only the final getting the rinse aid. On the new machine, I can't really do that.

I almost shot myself when I didn't think of this earlier. Just re-start your "computer" controlled machine on any cycle and then hit cancel after a rinse or two........

It will automatically drain and cancel. in the case of my Maytag DW it will add a drop of water to keep the sensor properly covered.

The only thing being accomplished by all this energy-star hype is that automatic machines are now semi-automatic in the sense that that to get acceptable results one has to flush -- er run-- it twice.

 

[DADoES]

 
F&P runs two after-rinses on all cycles, except three on Heavy. Heavy has 7 water changes total, W - R - R - W - R - R - R.  Each fill is ~0.8 gal.  There's no soil sensor.

 

[rolls_rapide]

I use the 'Auto Super Wash' on my Bosch, as the normal 'Auto Wash' seems to wash in cooler water and does fewer rinses - leaving dishes tainted with grease and detergent, which I cannot stand.