liberatordeluxe
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Saw on the Asda website Dispel detergent by Robert Mcbride. Has anyone used it and found it to be good in terms of cleaning. I know Mcbride generally make a lot of good products.
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liberatordeluxe
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Anyone????? Just been experimenting with new detetgents. How does one find the Sainsburys colour care liquids and powders as well?
paulc
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I saw this
In Asda a few months ago. I wouldn't recommend it after reading the ingredients list. Less than 5% for all surfactants and oxygen bleach. It may be cheap but I doubt it would perform well.
In Asda a few months ago. I wouldn't recommend it after reading the ingredients list. Less than 5% for all surfactants and oxygen bleach. It may be cheap but I doubt it would perform well.
liberatordeluxe
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Glad i didn't buy it then. Just assumed ad it was a Mcbride product it would be good quality. How do yiu rate Sainburys own brand Paul? According to Which Sainburys perform better than Surf. Do you go by the Which? Reviews?
paulc
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I stopped my subscription to Which? magazine a while ago, I just felt the tests were dumbed down and they seemed to favour particular brands.
Have not used Sainsbury's powder for a long long time. We still do not have the compact detergent in our stores yet although the big box Sainsbury's powder is on special offer. I like their washing up liquid, even the basics stuff is pretty good. I know someone who really likes the basics softener. I'm on Persil Bio powder and Persil Bio Small and Mighty just now as they were both on special...that will keep me going for a while.
Have not used Sainsbury's powder for a long long time. We still do not have the compact detergent in our stores yet although the big box Sainsbury's powder is on special offer. I like their washing up liquid, even the basics stuff is pretty good. I know someone who really likes the basics softener. I'm on Persil Bio powder and Persil Bio Small and Mighty just now as they were both on special...that will keep me going for a while.
liberatordeluxe
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I feel the same about Which. They always recommend Ariel and i dont think its any better than Sainsburys and the perfume makes me physically sick and causes migraines. I am a landscape gardener and Sainsburys has no trouble shifting stains, its low foam, no phthalates, 4 enzymes and rinses easy. The perfume is a sweet rose like scent but doesn't blow your head off.
Dispel is ...........
IMHO SHITE !!!
It may be cheap but sadly its a waste of money you may as well bash your washing on a rock by a river for all the cleaning this powder does, oh and it has a built in itch ingredient.
Better off with Daz.
Austin
IMHO SHITE !!!
It may be cheap but sadly its a waste of money you may as well bash your washing on a rock by a river for all the cleaning this powder does, oh and it has a built in itch ingredient.
Better off with Daz.
Austin
liberatordeluxe
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I quite like Surcare tablets and good for me as not keen on fragrance.
Has anyone noticed Persil are not selling tablets much now? I wonder if they are compacting their powders to compete with Ariel? I would use Persil but I don't use detergents that contain animal ingredients. The thought of wearing clothes washed in animal fat repulses me.
Has anyone noticed Persil are not selling tablets much now? I wonder if they are compacting their powders to compete with Ariel? I would use Persil but I don't use detergents that contain animal ingredients. The thought of wearing clothes washed in animal fat repulses me.
paulc
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To be honest
Animal fat in products doesn't bother me that much. It's been used for centuries in soaps, cleaning products, cosmetic products etc. I would rather, if an animal is to be killed for food that the by products be used as well rather than throwing them away. However, I'm not a vegetarian, if I were I would not be keen on using products containing animal fat.
Animal fat in products doesn't bother me that much. It's been used for centuries in soaps, cleaning products, cosmetic products etc. I would rather, if an animal is to be killed for food that the by products be used as well rather than throwing them away. However, I'm not a vegetarian, if I were I would not be keen on using products containing animal fat.
Persil and animal fats.
I have to say I would be very surprised that in this day and age that animal fat was still in use.
However if its in Persil then all I can say is it washes a darn site better than Dispel!
Austin
PS My husbear is a veggie and he uses soaps and other products and wears clothes washed in Persil.
I have to say I would be very surprised that in this day and age that animal fat was still in use.
However if its in Persil then all I can say is it washes a darn site better than Dispel!
Austin
PS My husbear is a veggie and he uses soaps and other products and wears clothes washed in Persil.
liberatordeluxe
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I wrote to Persil a while a go who told me Persil contains rendered animal fat. Stearic acid, sodium stearate among a few things. Of course these ingredients can be obtained from alternative sources but I know Persil uses animal sources for those 2 ingredients.
If I don't use Almat which I am using now I stick to Ariel or Bold which contains synthetic chemicals or plant derived materials.
If I don't use Almat which I am using now I stick to Ariel or Bold which contains synthetic chemicals or plant derived materials.
seamusuk
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I stick to Ariel or Bold which contains synthetic chemicals
Personally I would rather use a product that has by products of dead animals in than one from a company that tortures live ones...
Seamus
Personally I would rather use a product that has by products of dead animals in than one from a company that tortures live ones...
Seamus
spoodles
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Where do people get this idea that Unilever doesn't test on animals? They were caught at it only last year. Tests involved potential Slim-fast ingredients being used on pregnant rabbits that were then killed as they were about to give birth. Why were they even testing the effects of slimming products on pregnancy?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...e-Unilever-caught-animal-testing-scandal.html
They used to test tea on animals in order to make health claims too, until they were found out.
www.independent.co.uk
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...e-Unilever-caught-animal-testing-scandal.html
They used to test tea on animals in order to make health claims too, until they were found out.
PG Tips maker agrees to halt animal tests on its tea
The maker of PG Tips has agreed to stop testing its teas on animals, after activists threatened to launch a name-and-shame publicity campaign to highlight the company's experiments on rabbits, rats and pigs.
www.independent.co.uk
paulc
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The sad fact is......
trying to be an ethical shopper is exceptionally difficult. Multinationals such as P&G and Unilever make so many of the products we buy it's nigh impossible to avoid buying something they produce.
My objection to P&G has been their use of the LD 50/50 test, I try to by as few of their products as I can however, I have an OralB tooth brush, my husband uses Gillette razors and he loves Pringles.
P&G and Unilever have such a huge range of cleaning products, cosmetics and food stuffs, so much so that boycotting them completely is a herculean task.
Then we have Reckitt Benckiser, Johnson and Johnson and Henkel, all have been reported to have questionable animal testing procedures.
I must say it's taken me about an hour to type this so far and I've kind of lost my original train of thought, I suppose my point was we can never be sure what has been tested on animals unless it states explicitly on the products packaging.
trying to be an ethical shopper is exceptionally difficult. Multinationals such as P&G and Unilever make so many of the products we buy it's nigh impossible to avoid buying something they produce.
My objection to P&G has been their use of the LD 50/50 test, I try to by as few of their products as I can however, I have an OralB tooth brush, my husband uses Gillette razors and he loves Pringles.
P&G and Unilever have such a huge range of cleaning products, cosmetics and food stuffs, so much so that boycotting them completely is a herculean task.
Then we have Reckitt Benckiser, Johnson and Johnson and Henkel, all have been reported to have questionable animal testing procedures.
I must say it's taken me about an hour to type this so far and I've kind of lost my original train of thought, I suppose my point was we can never be sure what has been tested on animals unless it states explicitly on the products packaging.
Pringles are no longer a P&G product (at least in the US...)...they're now a Smuckers product.
liberatordeluxe
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Seamus, P & G don't test on animals in this country still do they? I have contacted them before but they are not an open company on giving out product ingredients compared to Unilever.
liberatordeluxe
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Spoodles, What detergents do you buy then?
I wouldn't
be to concerned about the animal fat!
As long as there is a demand for meat by meat eaters, there is going to be animals butchered to meet that demand.
At that point in time, there isn't a reason to simply throw away the fat that nobody's going to eat. That would be wasteful.
There are many types of fats, be they animal, or vegetable. What's interesting is that each fat is unique, in that each fat has its own fatty acid makeup. These specific fatty acids are used for thousands of things from medicine, food additives and of course soap!
From a science and chemistry perspective there isn't a concern about where that fatty acid came from, because the same fatty acid
(say oleic acid for instance) can be found in vegetable oil (olive) and lard! (pig fat)
Two completely different fats that contain a similar fatty acid makeup.
Since a cleaning formula, or detergent may require the addition of a percentage of actual soap to perform efficiently, why would they use... say palm oil (that's not always sustainable) rather than using tallow that has a very close fatty acid makeup, and would be thrown away otherwise.
be to concerned about the animal fat!
As long as there is a demand for meat by meat eaters, there is going to be animals butchered to meet that demand.
At that point in time, there isn't a reason to simply throw away the fat that nobody's going to eat. That would be wasteful.
There are many types of fats, be they animal, or vegetable. What's interesting is that each fat is unique, in that each fat has its own fatty acid makeup. These specific fatty acids are used for thousands of things from medicine, food additives and of course soap!
From a science and chemistry perspective there isn't a concern about where that fatty acid came from, because the same fatty acid
(say oleic acid for instance) can be found in vegetable oil (olive) and lard! (pig fat)
Two completely different fats that contain a similar fatty acid makeup.
Since a cleaning formula, or detergent may require the addition of a percentage of actual soap to perform efficiently, why would they use... say palm oil (that's not always sustainable) rather than using tallow that has a very close fatty acid makeup, and would be thrown away otherwise.
paulc
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Brilliantly put Stan.
As I have said in the past, if we are using animals for meat then as little of them as possible should go to waste. After all, the Scot's national dish uses bits of the animal that would get thrown away ( although Haggis is not a Scot's invention )and it is super delicious, there's nothing quite like it on a cold wet day to make you feel comforted and warm.
In regards to palm oil, I know there is a petition doing the rounds on Facebook to stop P&G using palm oil from non sustainable sources for some of their shampoo products.
As I have said in the past, if we are using animals for meat then as little of them as possible should go to waste. After all, the Scot's national dish uses bits of the animal that would get thrown away ( although Haggis is not a Scot's invention )and it is super delicious, there's nothing quite like it on a cold wet day to make you feel comforted and warm.
In regards to palm oil, I know there is a petition doing the rounds on Facebook to stop P&G using palm oil from non sustainable sources for some of their shampoo products.
