Early Quiet-By-Design GE Pair

[Chetlaham]

Reply 10

No homeowner wittingly lifts the ground prong on an appliance unless to get around a routinely tripping AFCI or GFCI. 

 

 

All NRTL listed appliances sold in the US are tested to have a leakage current under 5 milliamps. 

 

 

If you understood electrical theory, or payed attention to pertinent details while working hands on, you wouldn't misinterpret my posts as being off topic.

 

 

TL;DR: That washer has an internal ground fault.

 

[historian]

Birth place of my set

I don't recall where my washer or dryer were manufactured. My memory is not that great. I do remember that at least some of my machines were made in Canada which came as a surprise to me since GE Appliance park (Haire) in Louisville is still in operation.

 

[historian]

Grounding

BTW, I'm confused about the grounding issue comments. Their outlet is installed upside down and if it is an older house it wouldn't have had a gfci outlet. If it is a newer home it would most likely have a gfci breaker in the box. I installed a gfci outlet several years back just for added safety for my washer since my home was built in 1967. I always feel more secure with a GFCI when electricity is near water.

 

[Chetlaham]

The outlet appears relatively new with patch work underneath it. I am making a guess the circuit has been brought up to code during a renovation- new 3 wire with AFCI/GFCI.

 

[circlew]

"outlet upside down"

Not really. This is the preferred method of installation, with the grounding prong at the top. The reasoning is that if the plug would happen to be less than fully inserted into the receptacle, and a metal object would happen to slide down against the plugs prongs, that it would contact the grounding prong, rather than the hot. Manufacturers catalogs usually have their receptacle products pictured in this manner. I'm at the library now, which is a new building, and the receptacles all have the ground slot at the top, as do nearly all newer commercial buildings I've been in recently. Link to Legrand/Pass & Seymour.

https://www.legrand.us/wiring-devices/outlets-and-receptacles

 

[combo52]

Normal grounded outlet position

In this region of the world at least 90% of outlets are installed with the ground connector down for standard 120 V outlets.

Probably 90% of grounded cords where the cord comes out sideways are installed so the cord hangs nicely when the ground prong is at the bottom of the outlet,

The funny thing in the same picture the dryer outlet is installed with the ground down, which actually causes the two hot conductors to be exposed when the cord comes partly out of the outlet to falling, coat hangers, etc.

Reply number 10 we still haven’t heard an explanation for this mythical grounding adapter on the washer as to how it caused the durability or condition of this machine not to be good, I guess Chet’s record, jumped a couple grooves lol

John

 

[Chetlaham]

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[Chetlaham]

Also notice the brown water line at the cold side of the inlet valve. If that water leak is internal or in the valve body itself it would make sense that wet harness connections inside the machine would leak electricity to ground.