Electric Frigidaire Range

[Brneyedgrl80]

Hey all, I have a question for you guys.

My husband is really worried about natural gas prices going this year and next year, so much so that I have agreed to getting a vintage electric stove instead of putting in the O'keefe and Merritt.

Here's my questionj, do you guys really think that natural gas prices are going to go up significantly? I really don't want to sell my O'keefe and Merrit stove if I don't have to. I got it for a swell price ($175) and it's in ready to use condition (if I wanted to use it now).

I found a stove on ebay that needs a little work, but it's all the way in Pennsylvania. Factoring in shipping on the cost of the stove I'll be paying just a little bit more than what I paid of the O'keefe and Merrit, but I could probably sell my O&M for more than what I paid for it to make up what I pay for this electric stove.

I'm looking for a stove that either has a double oven or a seperate broiler and oven so I cook broil and bake things at the same time when necessary, that's why I got the O'keefe and Merritt in the first place. Sigh...

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[petek]

While natural gas prices are supposed to rise considerably that always depends as well on demand nationwide. A widespread cold winter make things worse on top of all the Katrina problems. But..don't forget you are only using a gas stove intermittently throughout the day unlike a gas water heater or furnace so it's really not as big an issue in my mind. Turning down the water heater and using a set back thermostat will go a long way to keeping the gas bill down.

 

[partscounterman]

Hi brneyedgrl!

Unless you are running a bakery or something, I really don't think you are going to used enough gas to make it worth your time to switch. I'm sure one of the bright math types could cost it out. You MAY choose to light it with a match each time rether than leaving a pilot burn, since the pilot can end up using more gas than anything else.

David

 

[toggleswitch]

Gas is usually cheaper to run in most part of the county than electric.

But gas cooking greatly heats the room and will burden your A/C being you are in a hot climate. IMHO electric may be better there if you like to cook; you won't hesitate to use it on a really hot day.

Also, gas stoves should really have an exhaust fan over them, which will help pull out heat, grease, odors and the film that gas cookers create. It will also keep the air-quality from becoming danerously poisoned with the by-products of combustion. But an exhaust will also pull out conditoned (read: expensive-to-condition).

There are advantages and disanvanages to both types. But I have to agree with others. Do not let fear (of energy prices)motivate you. Besides, electric rates will be going up, since gas and oil are going up too.

IMHO, There are better reasons to switch to electric than the price of natural gas!

 

[toggleswitch]

Generally it does not pay to switch TO electric anything for financial reasons.

The time needed to recoup your investment (if there is indeed any type of savings at all) may well take decades.

 

[Kevinpreston3]

Agreed....

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"The time needed to recoup your investment (if there is indeed any type of savings at all) may well take decades."

Same thing with hybrid cars. If you take into account the cost (plus do you really think the manufacturers will replace the batteries for free in the future? HA!), the maintenance against a standard high milage car (if high milage is your thing) you end up saving nothing or paying. This also applies to people who trade in their car to get a higher mileage one. They easily may never see a recoup on investment.

I always love playing with the numbers and coming up with the real story. It's amazing how many people don't do that, and then wonder where all their money went. (and brneyedgrl80 I am not referring to you, but to car buyers!) How is that for a topic hijack!!!

 

[tomturbomatic]

"Generally it does not pay to switch To electric anything for financial reasons." Except, as stated, the lessened heat load of an electric range with air conditioning. In the mid-Atlantic area, replacing a central air conditioning unit with a heat pump and combining that with the gas furnace for backup heat results in lower heating bills over a season than going it with just the gas furnace, but that is only replacing the central AC if you have to.

 

[toggleswitch]

It all depends.....

Wow leaned something new about costs. Thanks tom.

I'd do a heat-pump with oil (or gas) backup if I had time-of-day (peak & off-peak) rates.

Winter electric is much cheaper than summer electric rates, but off peak winter? oh-la-la! YUMMY savings.

 

[toggleswitch]

space an issue?

Keep your O&M gas cooker ....
and add a 20 inch or 24 inch wide AVANTI.

The link has a 24 inch self-cleaning model with a "glass" smooth-top.

How about puting the O&M outside under a covered area (let it give off all the heat and fumes it wants, and adding an electric one indoors?

I am SO GOOD at spending OPM (other people's money)

 

[Cybrvanr]

The trick behind a hybrid automobile however is not so much the savings, but the fact that you can have your cake and eat it too. I was looking at a co-worker's Toyota Prius and that is one amazing car. The car has plenty of room for 4 grown adults to sit in (something that's pretty unusual in today's cars, and probably one of the reasons SUV's are so popular!) The car is loaded with all sorts of electronic gadgets, like a navigation system, an incredible sound system with satellite radio and MP3 player, heated seats, and just about any other gadget feature you can think of. Best of all, the car is FAST! That's right, contrary to what Rush Limbaugh wants you to believe, these not so little cars will scat!!! Although a fully loaded Prius will set you back almost 30 grand, the enjoyment in it is the fact that this car out-performs many non-hybrid cars that cost about the same amount!

Okay, so how does relate to stoves? Well, Don't go by fuel price alone when choosing a stove, think about how you cook, and what you prefer first. I know I prefer to cook with a gas stove. If you're just cooking to feed you and your family, the fuel consumption should not be too much of a worry, like PartsCounterMan stated. Toggleswitch has a very good point too, gas stoves will heat up the house much more than an electric stove will, and that could end up costing you more in electricity useage. The advantage of a gas stove however is that they typically heat things up faster. I dunno if you keep up with automotive stuff too much, but it's been typically said that a Hybrid automobile is the most efficient if you do a lot of around-town driving, and a TDI (Diesel) is the most efficient if you do a lot of highway driving. Like the cars, It all depends on how you are cooking if you see the benefits. For instance, if you are leaving a roast cooking in the oven all day, a gas stove could be a real dis-advantage, but if you are frying hash-browns and omlets Waffle-house style, gas will be the best choice. You may also want to look at dual-fuel stoves, that use electricity for the oven, and gas for the cooktop.

Now the biggest factor to look into is the stability of your power grid. Do you all get a lot of thunderstorms and other weather that knock the power out frequently. Here in my town, power outages are commonplace, with overhead wires, and thunderstorms averaging about once a week during the summer, and ice storms in the winter. Having a gas stove is great because you will still be able to cook during an outage! My parent's home also had gas hot water, so I could take a shower during an outage, and the old furnace they had also didn't require electricity to run.

 

[kenmore1978]

savings

"Same thing with hybrid cars. If you take into account the cost (plus do you really think the manufacturers will replace the batteries for free in the future? HA!), the maintenance against a standard high milage car (if high milage is your thing) you end up saving nothing or paying. This also applies to people who trade in their car to get a higher mileage one. They easily may never see a recoup on investment."

Eventually, the hybrid car WOULD pay off, but basically you'd have to keep it until the wheels fall off. Otherwise, it's just the satisfaction that you're doing your "part" for the environment. I imagine the cost of replacemnt batteries wil go down as hybrids become more common.

"Best of all, the car is FAST! That's right, contrary to what Rush Limbaugh wants you to believe, these not so little cars will scat!!!"

That's because electric motors produce the most torque at stall, unlike internal comustion engines, which MUST be turning to produce any power at all. And torque is what actually launches you off the line.

 

[Brneyedgrl80]

Hey guys, I just wanted to say thanks so much for your input. We've decided to hold onto the O'keefe and Merritt and see how the price of natural gas goes.

I really don't want to get rid of the O&M anyways. Woo Hoo!!

 

[toggleswitch]

YAY

O&M !!!!!!!!!!

 

[tolivac]

Yes-When I tried a test drive in a Toyota Highlander Hybrid-was a TOL model-the limited-was an erie experience-you trun on the "ignition" and hear nothing-then you back the car out of the lot-and complete silence.Then as you accelerate-you hear and feel the gas engine starting. this vehicle was a four wheel drive-it has two electric motors and the gas engine.the vehicle did have pep-but the PRICE!! was over $40K.I'll try to get one another day-think the prices of these cars could come down as the demand increases and more car companies make them.They are nice.And another thought--that 270V battery supply voltage would sure power an interesting TUBED car stereo!!The second motor was for the front wheel axle--traction motors sort of like a locomotive!!Since the motors do have a longer and greater torque curve than the gas motor-would be interesting to see how such a car would pull a trailer.