Extreme sudslock drama in Europe!!

[foraloysius]

For those who don't read often in the Super Forum and missed the thread of Eddy's and Wiljan's visit to my place for a wash in I thought it would be fun to share this video.

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[foraloysius]

Eddy filmed the AEG with the lid open and with less suds...

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And Wiljan filmed this machine too, including a few spins with less drama.

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[mielabor]

Now how did that happen. Did you put a whole box of detergent in the machine?

 

[gyrafoam]

You must have used some Viva!

 

[foraloysius]

We did a load of thick towels and a bathrobe with a regular amount of (European) Ariel. Normally it does 5 rinses before it spins but we let it spin directly after the main wash. The Ariel is a relatively sudsy detergent and the bath towels probably frothed it up very badly. Besides that there is very little space between the drum and the tub. I guess this combination lead to a very hefty sudslock.

 

[mielabor]

And there is no detection of sudslock so that the machine stops spinning immediately?

 

[mrcleanjeans]

Shades of Brady Bunch LOL

 

[hooverzodiac12]

how come it looks as if it's supposed to move up and down? lol has it got some sort of suspension under it??

 

[foraloysius]

No, this machine doesn't have a detection system for sudslocks. It just goes straight into spin, no balancing, no sensing of whatsoever.

Brady Bunch revisit indeed!

This machine has no suspension system inside. It's on springs and casters. This design saved space inside the cabinet which made it a very compact machine with regular capacity. They were very popular with people who didn't have space for a regular washer. This design was used in Eastern Europe too, I think the Hajdu Energomat was built in Hungary. Video of a Hajdu:

 

[mielabor]

So (after watching the video from the link) it is quite normal for this machine to spill water during spinning? That means that you could only place it in the bathroom or similar space with a waterproof floor.

If I remember correctly, our neighbours had a Miele washer of similar construction in the 1970's. Never noticed the water spillage though.

 

[foraloysius]

Most of the time only a little water to none will come out of the top during the spin cycle. But it is indeed a good idea to put this machine on a floor that can deal with water.

Miele made a few toploaders as well, but most of them didn't spin like my Automatic 400. For a while Miele manufactured a model that did a spin. That machine did have no suspension at all. It was the Miele W473. Here's a picture.

 

[kic]

Sudslock

I have owned many of the 64 sl and almost all of them had hairline cracks around the "bolts" on either side of the drum. I have never witnessed the final result of those hairline cracks, but I could just imagine the catastrophe.
below is a pic of my Lavamat 240. This one is still young and in excellent shape.
Foraloysius have you experienced or heard of these hairline cracks? could it be as a result of suds locking or could it simply be age?
any insight would be greatly appreciated as it still boggles my mind.

Louis.

 

[mielabor]

Yes Louis,

That Miele washer looks very much, if not identical, to the machine my neighbours had.

 

[gansky1]

It's Eddy.

I've heard stories of extreme sudslock wherever he goes!

Beware wash-in hosts - beware!

 

[thomasortega]

He needs URGENTLY a bottle of Eco Plush, a brazilian cheap softener with an awful smell. it's the best softener to kill suds.

If you fill a Frigidaire Affinity with suds up to the top (Brazilian Omo or Ace liquid and the American Tide Regular are great to do that.) you just drip a few drops (less than a coffee spoon) in the detergent dispenser and a glass of water, all the suds will dissapear in less than 3 seconds and the water will be as white as milk with not even a single bubble.

When I get a camera I'll post a video of it. The suds look like boiling water.

 

[foraloysius]

Theo,

That machine was an 80's model, not a 70's I think.

Greg,

I knew it on forehand LOL, just took the risk. And it was worth it, we had a great time.

Thomas,

Fortunately I have a bottle of Amway/SA8 fabric softener, that is greasy enough to kill all the suds.

 

[mielabor]

Louis,

I am sure that they had it before 1975. Maybe it was a different model, but it was definitely a low top loader. I can remember that it struck me that they had such a small machine in their big kitchen where the ceiling was at least 3.5 metres high!

 

[foraloysius]

Theo,

Was that machine a Miele? Did it spin?

 

[kic]

foraloysius,

I always admire your Towels... so clean and crisp. looking at them makes want to take a shower and use one!