christfr
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this one is an eally 30s frigidaire
found another one
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christfr
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got it home cleaned it up.. all the parts are there plugged it in starts up but must have a leak cause wont cool.. but have a look at the guts to this baby wow
christfr
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guess its time to learn about fridges ha ha..
Belt drive? That is an oldie! Check the tag to see which refrigerant it uses.
christfr
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i think it says so12 or sq12 or something like that. but i hear it can be changed over to reg r12 or dump the guts and retro fit an r12 compresser into the machine...hum
Very nice, Chris. So much style for a big white box.
Thats just like the one I have from that era. Yours looks to have the (correct) type temp. selector swith over the door----mine is an (ill-fitted) after-market replacement.
Such great little refrigerators----mine is so quiet!
Such great little refrigerators----mine is so quiet!
christfr
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it sounds so fun when its runnin but poor baby wont cool.. she has a leak so it cant hurt to tinker with it..will be a fun project for the summer.. also go the monitor top runnin.. now that is a cool machine. and im gonna make room for her in the house
christfr
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ya know greg since steve and i have one i think you need one too.. i know where they are
What a catch!
~she has a leak so it cant hurt to tinker with it.
BEWARE! some old refrigerants were T-O-X-I-C!
~she has a leak so it cant hurt to tinker with it.
BEWARE! some old refrigerants were T-O-X-I-C!
SO2
I wonder if it uses sulfur dioxide as a refrigerant; I remember someone finding a little GE chest fridge from back-when that used SO<sub>2</sub>. That's a toughie, because it was supposedly around the late twenties that Frigidaire pushed to find a refrigerant that wasn't smelly and corrosive, and duPont answered with dichlorodifluoromethane...
I wonder if it uses sulfur dioxide as a refrigerant; I remember someone finding a little GE chest fridge from back-when that used SO<sub>2</sub>. That's a toughie, because it was supposedly around the late twenties that Frigidaire pushed to find a refrigerant that wasn't smelly and corrosive, and duPont answered with dichlorodifluoromethane...
"Open" compressors like that, with the motor separate of the compressor body typically develop leaks right at the crankshaft seal. This is the same piece that typically spells failure for most automotive air conditioners too. Newer compressors have the motor driving the compressor directly, and it can all be encased in a sealed housing. This is the reason why household refrigerators give 20+ years of life, whereas automotive AC units only give you about 4-7 years before all the freon leaks out. Part of the reason why the motor is external on this model is because the SO2 refrigerant used is corrosive to the electrical components in the motors.
You many be able to run a modern refrigerant in there with all the same mechanicals. A refrigeration mechanic can look at the high and low pressure numbers and tell you what would be the best refrigerant to use. At my Uncle's grocery store, he has some really old coolers with belt driven compressors around there and has converted them all over to R134. I'm not sure what they originally used though. To convert it over, the entire refrigeration system will need to be cleaned and flushed of all the old refrigerant and oil before the new stuf is put in.
You many be able to run a modern refrigerant in there with all the same mechanicals. A refrigeration mechanic can look at the high and low pressure numbers and tell you what would be the best refrigerant to use. At my Uncle's grocery store, he has some really old coolers with belt driven compressors around there and has converted them all over to R134. I'm not sure what they originally used though. To convert it over, the entire refrigeration system will need to be cleaned and flushed of all the old refrigerant and oil before the new stuf is put in.
christfr
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well the hunt is on for a seal that will work and then il try and get her runnin.. cant hurt to try
Seems your frigidaire there is older than a 1933. Look at some clips from this story:
"Frigidaire, stung by the continuing loss of market share, struck back in 1933 with its Meter Miser refrigerator, which was advertised as consuming only as much energy as a light bulb, and costing less than $100. Frigidaire's engineers "one-upped GE by using different technology—a rotary sealed compressor in place of a piston type, coupled with a simple and inexpensive refrigerant control."
" Until 1930, engineers had only toxic or flammable refrigerants to choose from for their systems. Sulfur dioxide, methyl chloride, ethyl chloride, or isobutane were used in virtually all household systems until the General Motors Research Laboratory synthesized chlorofluorocarbon refrigerants at the request of Frigidaire in 1928.
You can probably date yours pretty close if it's using freon refrigerant
The discovery was announced in 1930, and Frigidaire magnanimously sold the new refrigerant, called Freon, to anyone who wanted to use it. Before long, the other refrigerants disappeared and the chlorofluorocarbons dominated nonindustrial refrigeration until recently, when scientists discovered that the CFCs damage high-altitude ozone. "
"Frigidaire, stung by the continuing loss of market share, struck back in 1933 with its Meter Miser refrigerator, which was advertised as consuming only as much energy as a light bulb, and costing less than $100. Frigidaire's engineers "one-upped GE by using different technology—a rotary sealed compressor in place of a piston type, coupled with a simple and inexpensive refrigerant control."
" Until 1930, engineers had only toxic or flammable refrigerants to choose from for their systems. Sulfur dioxide, methyl chloride, ethyl chloride, or isobutane were used in virtually all household systems until the General Motors Research Laboratory synthesized chlorofluorocarbon refrigerants at the request of Frigidaire in 1928.
You can probably date yours pretty close if it's using freon refrigerant
The discovery was announced in 1930, and Frigidaire magnanimously sold the new refrigerant, called Freon, to anyone who wanted to use it. Before long, the other refrigerants disappeared and the chlorofluorocarbons dominated nonindustrial refrigeration until recently, when scientists discovered that the CFCs damage high-altitude ozone. "
christfr
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from what i understand if i can find and repair the leaks and flush the system it can be recharged with r12. but where am i gonna find a compresser seal ha ha. and how much oil is used in that thing? wonder if the oil is only in the compresser or if it runs through the whole system? am totally new at this ha ha but im gonna learn..
R12 is rather pricy these days....
Chris,
The first place to start, IMHO, is by tracking down someone who is equipped to read the hi/lo numbers and do a pressure check.
That will narrow down the range of possible refrigerants. Since the system will have to be cleaned anyway, don't worry 'bout the oil.
There is a chance that the seal will expand when in use again. so you may just be in luck.
I figure a commercial HVAC servicing stores and cinemas would be your best bet, or a decent automotive specialist.
The first place to start, IMHO, is by tracking down someone who is equipped to read the hi/lo numbers and do a pressure check.
That will narrow down the range of possible refrigerants. Since the system will have to be cleaned anyway, don't worry 'bout the oil.
There is a chance that the seal will expand when in use again. so you may just be in luck.
I figure a commercial HVAC servicing stores and cinemas would be your best bet, or a decent automotive specialist.
Chris---
Call Monitor-Top and see if he has a seal. Do you have a parts number or do you need me to look it up? (Will need Model#)
Call Monitor-Top and see if he has a seal. Do you have a parts number or do you need me to look it up? (Will need Model#)
christfr
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hey again.. well chatted with monitor top just a bit he thinks the seal may expand when recharged and can use R12.. he also said not to take anything apart down there.. ha ha good thing i didnt.. so will have to find a way to do that properly.. oh wait travis knows how..hum.. cause i sure dont understant the high and low pressure thing at all.. and if that dosnt work a new style condenser unit can be retro fitted into the machine.. either way i think its worth the effort. ha ha then again what do i need with 3 fridges...but i will say this the whole thing is built out of wood and sheet metal..really cool
