ovrphil
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not the oven someone is looking for and not a P7, but free!
FREE Vintage GE Double Oven - Excellent Condition (san anselmo)
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Oh that little word that's so wonderful.....FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it's a double oven, self cleaning (not P-7)in the larger, but hey it's FREE and seems to be in somewhat decent shape.
I question it's size though, ad says it's a 30" but it sure looks like it's 40" especially since it has the double oven in it.
And it's a double oven, self cleaning (not P-7)in the larger, but hey it's FREE and seems to be in somewhat decent shape.
I question it's size though, ad says it's a 30" but it sure looks like it's 40" especially since it has the double oven in it.
ovrphil
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it sure doesn't look like a 30" at all - what yardstick are they using?
danemodsandy
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Can You....
....Spell "WCI?"
....Spell "WCI?"
WCI Built 40" Range
The only good thing about this range is it is not Gas, LOL.
The only good thing about this range is it is not Gas, LOL.
ovrphil
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WCI - what is the telltale signs on this stove - the black panel?
Telltale signs
Burners at the perimeter and the oven doors extend to the edge of the frame.
Based on a Kelvinator frame from yore.
Burners at the perimeter and the oven doors extend to the edge of the frame.
Based on a Kelvinator frame from yore.
ovrphil
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WCI
thanks Nate - actually Sandy (danemodsandy) did tell me, as well, but I think my head reversed it - I thought the extended to oven side doors were also seen in non-WCI ; but the burners at the edges..won't forget.
I hate to post WCI stoves - they end up being target practice.
thanks Nate - actually Sandy (danemodsandy) did tell me, as well, but I think my head reversed it - I thought the extended to oven side doors were also seen in non-WCI ; but the burners at the edges..won't forget.
I hate to post WCI stoves - they end up being target practice.
John, my first thought exactly!
danemodsandy
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Phil:
The doors extending over the sides of the range is the easiest indicator of a WCI-built 40-incher.
The burners at each end of the cooktop is a slightly less reliable indicator for ranges built after 1957, because GE did make that wide-set configuration itself for a while after the Straight-Line Design styling debuted in '57. Here is a photo of a '57 GE Mainliner (originally posted by Ben swestoyz) showing burners at each end of the cooktop, even though GE's upper-series Liberator and Stratoliner ranges had burners clustered at the left-hand end of the cooktop. This clustered configuration later became the standard one for GE-built GE's, true, but it wasn't always that way.
The wide-set configuration was useful to farm housewives who did canning, blanching, sterilizing and other tasks requiring large utensils - it just gave lots of "elbow room" for large pots. At that point, GE still valued its farm business.
So, you can't necessarily count on the burner configuration as a tipoff for a WCI-built range, but the doors overlapping the sides of a post-1957 40-inch range is a reliable indicator that GE didn't build the range itself.
The doors extending over the sides of the range is the easiest indicator of a WCI-built 40-incher.
The burners at each end of the cooktop is a slightly less reliable indicator for ranges built after 1957, because GE did make that wide-set configuration itself for a while after the Straight-Line Design styling debuted in '57. Here is a photo of a '57 GE Mainliner (originally posted by Ben swestoyz) showing burners at each end of the cooktop, even though GE's upper-series Liberator and Stratoliner ranges had burners clustered at the left-hand end of the cooktop. This clustered configuration later became the standard one for GE-built GE's, true, but it wasn't always that way.
The wide-set configuration was useful to farm housewives who did canning, blanching, sterilizing and other tasks requiring large utensils - it just gave lots of "elbow room" for large pots. At that point, GE still valued its farm business.
So, you can't necessarily count on the burner configuration as a tipoff for a WCI-built range, but the doors overlapping the sides of a post-1957 40-inch range is a reliable indicator that GE didn't build the range itself.
ovrphil
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I remembered what you said Sandy - and was confused as I thought there was an exception to that rule, but the post 1957 models with doors overlapping the front edges will typically be WCI.
I really did think there was an exception, and after Nate mentioned the id'ing, I kept thinking, I need to ask Sandy again. LOL! Anyways, there are always some fine details. WCI made mostly cheap crap, from what you are saying - but ...is there an exception? I would think there would be, where some of the GE tooling or design was reticently fading rather than suddenly just abruptly changed in one year. Thanks for saving my brain from suffocation. ;-)
I really did think there was an exception, and after Nate mentioned the id'ing, I kept thinking, I need to ask Sandy again. LOL! Anyways, there are always some fine details. WCI made mostly cheap crap, from what you are saying - but ...is there an exception? I would think there would be, where some of the GE tooling or design was reticently fading rather than suddenly just abruptly changed in one year. Thanks for saving my brain from suffocation. ;-)
I have never seen that budget range with two ovens. $449 was a lot of money and still no clock and only one 8" surface unit. There was a $60.00 price difference between our single oven with clock and window in the oven door single oven model and the double oven model that looked almost like it; $219 versus $279 in 1964.
Tom
Look again, there is a clock. It's one of the "target" clocks mounted on the top of the backsplash. It is difficult to see against the backdrop of that gawd-awful wallpaper.
lawrence
Look again, there is a clock. It's one of the "target" clocks mounted on the top of the backsplash. It is difficult to see against the backdrop of that gawd-awful wallpaper.
lawrence
danemodsandy
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Tom:
Two ovens is an uncommon configuration, but it was offered. The single-oven Speedster, pictured below in another photo originally posted by Ben swestoyz, was more widely sold, as you've said. Note the penciled-in price on this brochure:
Two ovens is an uncommon configuration, but it was offered. The single-oven Speedster, pictured below in another photo originally posted by Ben swestoyz, was more widely sold, as you've said. Note the penciled-in price on this brochure:
danemodsandy
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Double Ovens:
Were offered way up into the P*7 era, as this shot shows.
What's interesting here is that the wide-set burners were dropped in favor of the clustered configuration by this time. I think that had to do with the fact that the wide-set configuration only came with three small burners and one large. By the time GE got around to providing budget ranges with the two large/two small configuration, they evidently weren't interested in giving farm customers wide-set burners any more; it had probably become too expensive to tool so many cooktop variations (clustered two-and-two, clustered three-and-one, wide-set two-and-two, wide-set three-and-one). The more "uptown" clustered burners became the norm.
It's also interesting that GE evidently felt that the console styling originated in 1957 was still competitive more than ten years later. The built-in clock/timer updates it a bit, but still, that's a '50s look overall, not a '60s or '70s one. [this post was last edited: 5/16/2014-07:16]
Were offered way up into the P*7 era, as this shot shows.
What's interesting here is that the wide-set burners were dropped in favor of the clustered configuration by this time. I think that had to do with the fact that the wide-set configuration only came with three small burners and one large. By the time GE got around to providing budget ranges with the two large/two small configuration, they evidently weren't interested in giving farm customers wide-set burners any more; it had probably become too expensive to tool so many cooktop variations (clustered two-and-two, clustered three-and-one, wide-set two-and-two, wide-set three-and-one). The more "uptown" clustered burners became the norm.
It's also interesting that GE evidently felt that the console styling originated in 1957 was still competitive more than ten years later. The built-in clock/timer updates it a bit, but still, that's a '50s look overall, not a '60s or '70s one. [this post was last edited: 5/16/2014-07:16]
danemodsandy
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The Clock:
On the Mainliner and Speedster models was optional, if I'm not mistaken. That's why it's mounted on top of the console like that; it bolted into place.
On the Mainliner and Speedster models was optional, if I'm not mistaken. That's why it's mounted on top of the console like that; it bolted into place.
Ours was like the range under the brown Speedster, but a single oven and before self-cleaning made it below TOL models.
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