I never knew this, but Frigidaire use universal brush motors for their pump drive. Does this apply to all Frigidaire dishwashers or just some of them? Do 2016 models also use this type of motor?
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Frigidaire DW motors
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vacerator
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re; chopper blade,
Most machines don't even have one anymore because of the noise they made in pump outs.
That Frgidaire looks simple, but also cheaply designed. At least it was able to be fixed.
Most machines don't even have one anymore because of the noise they made in pump outs.
That Frgidaire looks simple, but also cheaply designed. At least it was able to be fixed.
Quality
I guess if one had to choose between GE and Frigidaire it would be GE?
I guess if one had to choose between GE and Frigidaire it would be GE?
chopper blades
How many chopper blades do the frigidaires have? What are they made of?
How many chopper blades do the frigidaires have? What are they made of?
vacerator
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Jerome,
it has one, as the photo of the stainless steel blade depicts.
Quality and GE? Of course, I paid $800 for my GE profile in 2011.
It has the Prihana TR blade. I barely hear it. In fact, my machine runs at about 50 db. I added a little insulation in the toe kick because I glued cabinet finish wood to it so it wouldn't rattle at all.
it has one, as the photo of the stainless steel blade depicts.
Quality and GE? Of course, I paid $800 for my GE profile in 2011.
It has the Prihana TR blade. I barely hear it. In fact, my machine runs at about 50 db. I added a little insulation in the toe kick because I glued cabinet finish wood to it so it wouldn't rattle at all.
Does it really matter?
In either case, I'd bet the motors are made in China so as to keep the price down so the cheap ass consumer can get it at Lowes or someplace for the "best possible price", along with 90 days same as cash. Et cetera.
In either case, I'd bet the motors are made in China so as to keep the price down so the cheap ass consumer can get it at Lowes or someplace for the "best possible price", along with 90 days same as cash. Et cetera.
cfz2882
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Vietnam
on a damaged 2011 GE dishwasher I stripped,the main motor was made in Vietnam
the drain motor was made in china.
on a damaged 2011 GE dishwasher I stripped,the main motor was made in Vietnam
the drain motor was made in china.quality matters
I like my dishwashers to have quality chopper blades in them. My whirlpool point voyager has 2 stainless steel blades in the food grinder so tough food particles get pulverized. It does matter. I am about quality, not quantity.
I like my dishwashers to have quality chopper blades in them. My whirlpool point voyager has 2 stainless steel blades in the food grinder so tough food particles get pulverized. It does matter. I am about quality, not quantity.
Induction motors are significantly better then brush motors. Yes a very poor induction motor might fail before a good brush motor, but in my experience GE has some of the best motors for any modern dishwasher. The redesigned motors from 2000 are still chugging along. Comparing a brush motor to a GE quiet power motor is imo a no brainier.
If Frigidaire is still using brush motor on their DW I do not think that looks good in terms of reliability.
If Frigidaire is still using brush motor on their DW I do not think that looks good in terms of reliability.
Well you'll be crying in your Cheerios to hear that GE and Elux now source their little brush motors from Johnson Elrctric. A Chinese firm with an English name.
They're AC fed, but have a built in AC/DC converter and permanent magnets.
All make the same distinctive brush 'whine'.
Though they seem pretty powerful thus far.
They're AC fed, but have a built in AC/DC converter and permanent magnets.
All make the same distinctive brush 'whine'.
Though they seem pretty powerful thus far.
vacerator
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True Chetaham;
A motor is as good as its bearings, rare earth induction magnets, or armature windings and carbon brushes.
On a copper wound motor, all it takes is one broken spot to cause failure.
A motor is as good as its bearings, rare earth induction magnets, or armature windings and carbon brushes.
On a copper wound motor, all it takes is one broken spot to cause failure.
GE motors
Wait, I thought they were still induction on the low end GEs?
Wait, I thought they were still induction on the low end GEs?
GE's induction motors
Chet, you're 100% correct.
The very low end standard tub GE machines still use the now "old" (aprox. 1/8hp) induction "quiet" motor.
I believe they're now made in China and Vietnam.
Sadly....they used to be made in the USA and Germany back in the 'good old days.'
They're still a great motor though. Probably my favorite.
Chet, you're 100% correct.
The very low end standard tub GE machines still use the now "old" (aprox. 1/8hp) induction "quiet" motor.
I believe they're now made in China and Vietnam.
Sadly....they used to be made in the USA and Germany back in the 'good old days.'
They're still a great motor though. Probably my favorite.
Ok, few, thats a relief. I dont think Id live through a BOL GE dishwasher with a vacuum cleaner motor lol. And that whine noise would also ruin any quiet the motor might have.
I dont think Id live through a BOL GE dishwasher with a vacuum cleaner motor lol. And that whine noise would also ruin any quiet the motor might have.Rectified DC perm magnet motors are used in all kinds of machines these days----From --dishwashers-disposers,power tools,sewing machines,electric lawnmowers,the list goes on!!!Neodonyium magnets have improved these motors-making them more powerful in less space.The perm magnet is the feild-or stator-the armature or rotor is fed power with brushes as on a universal motor.Now "digital" SR motors are replacing perm mag ones in some applications.The SR motors are more expensive-they require a circuit board with the digital electronics to run the SR motor.
vacerator
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Correct Rex,
SR motors need a microprocessor to control the sine waves.
SR motors need a microprocessor to control the sine waves.
frigidaire dishwasher pumps
What types of wash pumps do the frigidaires use from the BOL to the TOL models?
What types of wash pumps do the frigidaires use from the BOL to the TOL models?
vacerator
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motors,
I do not know about Frigidaire, since I know of so many problems with them.
I'd never buy one.
Throw good money after bad, or do it right the first time.
As my dad used to say, buy a good machine, take care of it, and it takes care of you. Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid, Kenmore by Whirlpool, GE.
Unless you can afford a high end Asko, Miele or Bosch.
I do not know about Frigidaire, since I know of so many problems with them.
I'd never buy one.
Throw good money after bad, or do it right the first time.
As my dad used to say, buy a good machine, take care of it, and it takes care of you. Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid, Kenmore by Whirlpool, GE.
Unless you can afford a high end Asko, Miele or Bosch.
