I see what you're saying about the discrepancy. I'll take the back off mine, give a look and let you know. When you say the yellow wire blew off are you referring to the yellow wire shown behind the red/black on the thermistor?
Got a 1957 GE 30" Range
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Yes, the yellow wire is the one that blew off. It would be awesome if you could take a look at yours and send pix as I'm curious if yours is the same.
I would absolutely love to have that burner working as it is, and Kevin was so gracious to send a thermostat that we could use just in case cleaning did not work. I have also purchased a couple of piano key buttons that will fit in the slot of the slider in the event that the new thermostat doesn't work and we'll just have to us a regular burner.
I would absolutely love to have that burner working as it is, and Kevin was so gracious to send a thermostat that we could use just in case cleaning did not work. I have also purchased a couple of piano key buttons that will fit in the slot of the slider in the event that the new thermostat doesn't work and we'll just have to us a regular burner.
1957 GE Range
Great progress Ken, these are really cool ranges. That loose black wire on the automatic burner was not a ground wire but rather the common power wire for both elements for the left front element.
Hi Jeannine, the yellow wire that blew loose on your range was the special resistor lead, a failure like this is not caused by a bad ground but rather excessive current flow through this wire, probably caused by something shorted.
Great progress Ken, these are really cool ranges. That loose black wire on the automatic burner was not a ground wire but rather the common power wire for both elements for the left front element.
Hi Jeannine, the yellow wire that blew loose on your range was the special resistor lead, a failure like this is not caused by a bad ground but rather excessive current flow through this wire, probably caused by something shorted.
Wow Ken, glad to see it was such a minor thing with the large burner (a loose wire can be the cause of so many vintage appliance woes...)
Looking great!!
Looking great!!
Thermistor Findings
Took the cover off the 57 and found red and black together and red in back (pic 1). Not seeing a yellow wire I took the cover off the 58 and found red and black together and yellow in back (pic 2) like in your pic. The other end of the yellow wire goes to the inner coil or full coil selection switch on the left of the backsplash as the diagram you posted shows. In your picture #3 above its easy to distinguish and follow the yellow thermistor wire because its bright yellow. But I don't see the other end of it at the coil selection switch. Maybe you should trace it from the thermistor and make sure it's installed correctly. Did you have it disconnected?
Took the cover off the 57 and found red and black together and red in back (pic 1). Not seeing a yellow wire I took the cover off the 58 and found red and black together and yellow in back (pic 2) like in your pic. The other end of the yellow wire goes to the inner coil or full coil selection switch on the left of the backsplash as the diagram you posted shows. In your picture #3 above its easy to distinguish and follow the yellow thermistor wire because its bright yellow. But I don't see the other end of it at the coil selection switch. Maybe you should trace it from the thermistor and make sure it's installed correctly. Did you have it disconnected?
Thanks for the pictures, Ken. After the wire blew off the stove, we did reconnect it, but I don't recall what we did. I don't think I have pictures, but I have may taken a video--will have to check. Whatever it was didn't work, as then we had zero power to the burner. We were too rattled by the experience to keep going and we didn't want to do further damage, so we disconnected the burner again, just in case and haven't tried anything since due to lack of time.
We finally had some time together this past weekend to open up the stove and try and figure out what happened last time (see previous posts in this thread).
Ken--we did see that we had the yellow wire on incorrectly. We reviewed our old videos from when we replaced the thermostat, and sure enough our yellow wire was where yours is located, in the back of the thermistor. However, per the schematic diagram on the back of our stove, the yellow wire was hooked on the right (pole?) of the thermistor, so that's what we did which didn't work.
We put the yellow wire behind the thermistor as per the diagram in the service manual and your picture and verified that there were no broken wires at the burner/coil. We also replaced the thermostat with one that I got from a donor stove just in case we fried the other one. We plugged the stove back in and nothing happened. The calrod slide thing lit up, but there was no heat coming off of the burner/coil, and flipping the inner/outer switch didn't do anything.
So, using a voltmeter, we decided to check and see if the burner/coil was even getting power. When we lifted up the coil and pulled it back to expose the connections to test, once again we got a loud pop and a lot of smoke.
We figured that was our cue to stop, so we disconnected that burner/coil completely again. The only difference this time around is that now the lights in both ovens are no longer working. We tried just changing out the bulb, but that didn't work so it's something more than that. Our original plan if that didn't work was to try and replace the calrod sliding thing and the sensi-temp with a set of piano keys and a regular burner/coil from the donor stove, but decided to stop in case we did more damage. So, we're back to square one, but this time with no oven lights
Ken--we did see that we had the yellow wire on incorrectly. We reviewed our old videos from when we replaced the thermostat, and sure enough our yellow wire was where yours is located, in the back of the thermistor. However, per the schematic diagram on the back of our stove, the yellow wire was hooked on the right (pole?) of the thermistor, so that's what we did which didn't work.
We put the yellow wire behind the thermistor as per the diagram in the service manual and your picture and verified that there were no broken wires at the burner/coil. We also replaced the thermostat with one that I got from a donor stove just in case we fried the other one. We plugged the stove back in and nothing happened. The calrod slide thing lit up, but there was no heat coming off of the burner/coil, and flipping the inner/outer switch didn't do anything.
So, using a voltmeter, we decided to check and see if the burner/coil was even getting power. When we lifted up the coil and pulled it back to expose the connections to test, once again we got a loud pop and a lot of smoke.
We figured that was our cue to stop, so we disconnected that burner/coil completely again. The only difference this time around is that now the lights in both ovens are no longer working. We tried just changing out the bulb, but that didn't work so it's something more than that. Our original plan if that didn't work was to try and replace the calrod sliding thing and the sensi-temp with a set of piano keys and a regular burner/coil from the donor stove, but decided to stop in case we did more damage. So, we're back to square one, but this time with no oven lights
