How about an electric car? BMW i3 for me

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drhardee

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I took delivery of a new, 2014 BMW i3 (plug-in electric car) this past week. It was a rather belated 50th birthday present to myself. It's an absolute BLAST to drive, and it's sold as strictly as a commuter or "city" car. The car features an all-electric range (depending on how it's driven) of up to 60 miles. Mine has the "range extender" option, which is a gas powered BMW motorcycle engine which will activate when the electric range gets low, and charge the battery for another 55 miles, or until it runs out of gas. The gas tank for the range extender is 1.9 gallons, so it's not designed for cross country cruising. The range extender doesn't drive the wheels, it just charges the battery.

 

Curiously enough, this car is the fastest 0-30 MPH car that BMW manufactures. When you step on the pedal, you (can be) pressed back into the seat, but the range will definitely take a hit. There are 3 driving "modes", or electronic driving style settings. There is the default setting of "comfort", which is normal driving response as in any BMW, but it's also the most battery intensive mode. I've been driving around town in what's known as "Eco-Pro" mode, which throttles back acceleration, and cuts the HVAC output by half, to save battery power. There's also an "Eco-Pro Plus" mode, which cuts out all HVAC action, and really throttles back the acceleration. You can, of course, step on the accelerator in an emergency, and override the electronic throttle back action.

What's amazing is the regenerative braking on this car. Take your foot off of the accelerator, and the car IMMEDIATELY starts to slow down with purpose..there's no gentle coasting in this car. That is done to take advantage of the brake system's ability to recharge the battery, like in a hybrid, only much more noticeable.

 

The car also features some unique (to me) electronic goodies. One of them is a self-parallel parking feature. Using a mirror-mounted camera and sensors mounted in the fenders, when switched on, it will detect an empty parking space, and then proceed to parallel park itself with no input from the driver. It takes over steering, braking and...parking, damnit!,  then it chimes when you're parked. I haven't had the courage to play with that yet. It has camera-based cruise control, which detects cars ahead of you, and slows your speed down so as to not get too close to a car that may be slowing on the freeway. I've tried that, and it's neat. It just flashes an icon on the dash screen, and brakes the car gently. This same camera "reads" street speed signs, and compares your speed to the legal posted speed. When there are no speed signs, it gets information from satellite input about what the local speed is on the road you're driving. Sounds a little heavy-handed, and it works.

 

Another trick I've not yet tried, is ACC, anti-collision control. It senses (again cameras and fender sensors) pedestrians in your path, and will brake the vehicle to avoid hitting them. The same sensors can kick in when you're backing up the car, so you don't hit any objects in your path. It also has low speed front parking sensors, so you don't hit a wall or curb.  All of these nannies can be manually switched off.

 

Charging is accomplished either via 240v charger (which BMW will happily sell to you as a $1,080.00 un-installed accessory, installation by BOSCH), or the provided 120v home use charger, which takes about 11 hours to completely recharge a completely spent battery. I don't go that far daily; 30 miles to and from work, and a little shopping, so I'm going to try the 120v charger for a few months to see if my needs are met that way.

I bought a unique color; solar orange. It was a close to a red car as BMW makes in this model. I told my husband that at age 50, it was time for a red car, or a red-headed 20 year old. We both agreed that the red car would be less aggro in the short term, and it's under warranty for 4 years or 50 K miles.

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Interesting car, just too ugly for me.

If it's in the market for an EV I'd get a Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoe or Vauhall Ampera. (Chevrolet Volt)
 
I don't know about ugly; but it's definitely not bland in the way that a Chevy Volt or Nissan Leaf is. I shopped them as well, and they struck me as rather "meh" in the design department. Mercedes also builds an electric B series. But, if I'm spending 50 large on a commuter car, I'd rather have it look somewhat unique, and be backed (and designed and built) by BMW.

 

But, we're all different, and that's what makes the world go 'round, yes?

 

Of course , if Miele built an electric car, I'd be all over that!
 
By the by....

< Accolades bestowed by the World Car Awards:
World Green Car of the Year for the BMW i3
World Car Design of the Year for the BMW i3
Engine of the Year for the BMW 3-litre straight six-cylinder petrol engine

 

Accolades awarded by Euro NCAP:
“Euro NCAP Advanced Award”:
Pedestrian Warning with City Braking function
Driver assistance systems from BMW ConnectedDrive

Accolades awarded by “auto, motor und sport”:
“Best Cars”:
BMW i3, BMW 4 Series Coupe, BMW 5 Series in each of their respective segments

 

Yeah, ugly car.  Ugly car.

 
I like the interior and the tricked out rear door.....

but would have expected a hell of a lot more from BMW for its driving range at that price...

the Prius set the standard, and been waiting for anyone else to go the extra mile way beyond rather than try and copy it....not that I am all that wild about them either, but they had some unique features, and would MOVE if you stepped on the pedal......I like the solar panels in the roof to power the A/C....something all cars should have...

but its all a matter of preference....
 
Wow

Love that interior.  Congratulations on your 50th BD celebration!  I have a friend who has a Leaf, and he's very happy with the car.  He opted for a 240v charger, I'm thinking his range is 100 miles? 

 

lawrence
 
Congratulations

... On your vehicle.

Must admit the new BMW (and a lot of other new cars, particularly the wheel designs) certainly does not ring any bells for me, but thats just me. I'll keep on plugging away with my 21 yo baby 3-series for now LOL :)

The Prius Solar A/C option is actually used when one is parked up. Starts up a little ventilation fan so that A/C (electric) doesn't have to work as hard when the car restarts, thus saving power and fuel. And the Prius' do move. Rode in one as a taxi in Norway to the airport in Oslo.
IMO, it moved along just as good as the Diesel we had from the airport in Oslo, perhaps even better!
 
Very spiffy looking on the exterior and interior. How do the rear doors open as there don't appear to be any exterior handles? I wonder how the batteries would fare in -30 C degree weather as the cold takes a beating on any battery.

Gary
 
Nice!

Did you take this on a LEASE? The reviews of this EV have been great!

I heard there was a LOANER program in the event you needed a vehicle for a longer road trip.





Malcolm
 
 

 

Hey Dave, CONGRATS on your new BMW EV!   What a neat vehicle, I like that it's a 4 seater!  I'm still warming up to the styling.  

 

I love the idea of a true EV and would REALLY love to have one myself.   My normal commute and other local driving almost cries out for an EV.   As it is I drive a Camry Hybrid.  On the upside, gets the fuel economy of a much smaller car.  The trade off is a 1 second or so delay in "full power" when I mash the go pedal into the carpet, but I've learned to compensate.   Additionally, it's really boring to drive (I'd much  prefer a sports sedan). 

 

About 15 years ago I drove / lived with a Toyota RAV4-EV (first gen - and we still have/use a couple at work) and a GM EV-1 for a week each and really enjoyed both vehicles!  As it was temporary thing, not having a charger in my garage was a pain in the butt.   The EV-1 did have a 110V <strong style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">convenience charger however.</span></strong>   I loved, loved, LOVED the EV-1's power (0-60 in about 8.5 secs), but that of course came at the cost of less range.   The RAV4-EV was quieter and slower, but with the NiMH batteries, still managed a 100-110 mile range no matter how hard I drove it.

 

Question: Are you able to select how aggressive the regenerative braking is on your car?  Both the RAV-EV and Tesla give you the ability to select how much the regen is when you lift your right foot.   When switched to the lesser of the two modes, the RAV-EV will coast seemingly forever.

 

I have also test driven the Nissan Leaf, Fiat 500e (both belong to a friend) and a Tesla model S.   I would very much LOVE to have a Tesla, but at $100K++, this is only a fantasy, at lease until I win the Lotto.  
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Congrats again!

Kevin

 

PS... back in May 1998, a guy I know (Kris Trexler - the 1st person in Los Angeles to take delivery of an EV-1) drove his EV-1 3200+ miles from LA to the EV-1's final assembly plant in Troy, Mich, all with NO charging infrastructure outside of the greater LA (and Phoenix, AZ) area!   The link below is the webpage he created about his adventure.   

 

BTW... when GM shut down the EV-1 program and crushed all the cars, GM allowed Kris' car to escape that fate and it's now on permanent display at the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles.

 
Congratulations on your new electric vehicle, however, I'd rather look bad in a convertible than good in a station wagon...and that BMW is no convertible. The world of car design from my youth has, like many other things, passed me by 
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B[COLOR=#0000ff; font-size: 12pt]est to keep the top up, environmentalists would throw rocks at you, but in California you wouldn't need a smog certificate.[/COLOR]

 

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A question...........

 

 

David, has your battery gotten low enough for the "range extender" to start and run?  

 

How well insulated / isolated is it?   I'm sure you can tell when it's running, but how intrusive is it into the "quiet" of driving an EV?    Are you able to "mask" the sound by turning up the stereo?

 

Thanks!

Kevin
 
I haven't yet discharged the battery to the point where the range extender needs to kick in..I'm hoping it's sufficiently "muffled". I don't see any sort of tailpipe for the thing...I don't know how it exhausts...or where.  I'm sure the Germans have that figured out.

 

I AM leasing this car for 3 years/36K miles. I didn't want to purchase it, especially in it's first year of production. The lease period is shorter than the warranty period (4 years 50K miles), and I like knowing that if anything fails, I'm covered...except tires.

 

I believe BMW does have some sort of a "loaner" program if you need a road trip vehicle. I won't need that since I have the MB wagon in the garage for road trips and hauling the dachshunds to the vet.  An electrician is coming over today to wire me up a dedicated 120v outlet in the garage  for the charger, so I can set the charging matrix on "full 120v power". I have it reduced now, since the charger shares a circuit with a freezer, lights, yard lights, and whatever else is on that circuit.

 

As to your question about the interior rear door handles, they're built into the rear door pillars. There is no exterior rear handle. The rear doors have to be closed prior to the front doors, since that's where all of the front door latching mechanisms are.  The front power windows open about 1/4 inch when the front doors are opened, and then close themselves when the doors close.  The rear windows do not open. The front bonnet (there's no engine and a tiny amount of storage space) and rear "boot", are electrically operated. The rear seats will fold down.

 

The regenerative braking is "fixed" on these cars. That said, if you lift your foot slowly off the accelerator, the regen is gentler, than if you completely lift it off. I haven't tried "eco pro plus" mode, that may make a regen difference.  It's not listed in the owner's manual, which is online in the vehicle.  I had to ask for a printed manual, which doesn't cover navigation or the audio system, which has a 20 GB HDD for music and video storage.

 

I'll post some pics shortly.
 
Very nice!

I haven't had an opportunity to look at the i3 in person yet, but the pics I've seen online are pretty cool. (But, I like Citroens and Gremlins, so...) I drive a Lexus CT hybrid and am completely addicted to the gas mileage, so an electric car would totally appeal to me, but even though we have a conventional car to fall back on, I still can't quite get my brain to accept the notion of purchasing something with limited range, even though it's probably more than sufficient for 95% of what I use my car for. That, and the memories of 3 extended power outages (one week or more) from Hurricanes Irene and Sandy, and a freak early snow storm in between, are still fresh in my mind which makes me a little risk averse to rely on electricity.

I did an auto show test drive once of the Nissan Leaf and was amazed how zippy it felt, so I can only imagine how much fun a BMW electric would be!

Drive long and prosper!
 
I like the interior. I saw one of these pass in front of me when I was pulling forward in a parking space. It's dramatic and cool looking in an ugly way. I mean ugly in looks, since we all see the landscape differently. I admire BMW's accomplishments, but like some others here, I like the older vehicles(grew up in the 50's and 60's a kid/teen). If Telsa gets their battery-technology out to all the other manufacturers(have they?)…maybe the shape of these jelly-bean cars will change. BMW's styling has been improving - I now like a lot of their product line.

Is this vehicle comfortable on long trips? I can't tell by looking at the interior.

Oldster Phil
 

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