How about an electric car? BMW i3 for me

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Since the range is about 60 Miles. "Long Trips" don't play into the equation. As a commuter car, it looks quite comfey. Heck of a lot more roomy than a SMART car (which I love the looks of btw).
 
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Harley -This BMW is much more comfortable looking than a SMART car, but they're "cute", too. I got into one and decided the climb in and out wasn't good for me. Anyways….

For scooting around town, short commutes to work, 60 miles is ok - I haven't read the specs on the car, but I'm surprised it's not more miles per charge. As I said, Tesla has the battery technology that puts them ahead of others in distance.

But BMW is just getting started here - better is always in the "B" of BMW.
 
Congrats on the vehicle. I think what's off-putting to me is not the design, but the 2 tone paint job. If it were all one color I'd probably like it.

Does the range extender run if the car is off? I.e. if you park it at a supermarket, can you set it to run and recharge the batteries while you're grocery shopping? I'd think that'd be pretty important.

While this could do my commutes w/out a problem, any electric vehicle I buy would need to have a much more robust range extender. My fantasy car is an electric that sits nice and high like my Nissan Cube, has a motor at each wheel for AWD when needed in winter, and has a really robust range extender and solar panels on the roof.

For the record, I had a deposit on the SmartCar and would have taken delivery in spite of the transmission still in alpha-testing (as far as I was concerned), but my then present car died and I needed something immediately.

Congrats again and best of luck. Please keep us posted.

Jim
 
Range extenders don't work when you're out of the car...intention is that you would plug in if you're out running errands. Most towns around here have outlets in their downtown areas; or you can ask OnStar for local charging when running errands in your Volt...(granted Detroit is unusual in it's EV infrastructure given the industry here...lots of experimentation in the area).
 
Envision

My perfect EV would have a solar panel roof that generated enough power to operate the climate control while parked in the sunshine and/or trickle charge the battery when A/C was not needed.

I'm sure it will happen eventually!

Malcolm
 
VW has rolled out an e-Golf that supposedly gets 75 miles per charge, with 120V, 240V, and 480V charging options. Here in CA, it would be cool to have solar panels on the roof to offset the energy costs of charging the car. I know people here with a Leaf who are able to charge their car and who get a year end refund settlement from the electric company. They run their meter below zero every month, so they never owe anything to SDGE.
 
Doubt that I'll ever have an electric vehicle, as I live in an outlying area, and drive at least 40 miles round trip most days, and usually more. But I may put in a 240V outlet in the garage, in case someone in the future lives there that has one.
 
The Range Extender

has some very strict rules governing when it may run, in order to classify the car in some particular way in California. I learned this from a YouTube video by "Alex On Autos". I can't look it up right now as I am at work and YouTube is not to be used on the company computers.
 
Saw one on the road!

Out running errands on Saturday, I spotted an i3 in the oncoming lane and exclaimed on the fact. This of course required an explanation of what it was to which hubby responded, "it's pretty!". So there you go! For the record, he doesn't have my quirky sense of automotive style.
 
Range extenders: I see your point and get the idea. Unfortunately, plugging in to recharge while doing errands is not an option in most places most of the time. Hence, the need for the range extender to run while the car is parked outside.

A few years back some friend and I were talking over a few beers what would need to happen/be set up here in NYC to make an purchasing an electric car make sense, both practically and financially given the real world limits of its use.
some of the the things we came up with:
1. No sales/excise tax of any kind.
2. No fees for inspection or registration. No license renewal fees for all insured drivers.
3. Exemption from all tolls and all parking meter fees.
4. Use of all car pool lanes even w/just driver in the car.
5. Free parking in all garages/lots and free recharging provided.
6. Financing would have to be essentially interest-free.

Honestly, I'm not sure this would even be enough. Although many/most only drive their car short distances M-F, weekends are a very different story. One would have to save a serious amount of $$ to consider an electric car, IMO.

As far as the SmartCar goes (went?), I test drove it and loved it except for the tranny. It really seemed to be designed for tall drivers. Contrary to rumor, there's more than enough cargo room for 2 guys to go away for the weekend. Personally, I'd like to see it redesigned as follows:
1. 4 doors
2. 4 cylinder motor in the back dropped to 2 cylinders and keep the RWD. reg gas used, not premium as at present.
3. Front wheels driven by electric motors, making it a hybrid using primarily electric motors to go.
4. A "snow mode" to allow AWD when needed.
5. Full use of the 2-cyl gas motor as range extender.
6. The transmission for gas motor chucked in favor of a smooth, quiet CVT like my Nissan Cube has.

That is a car I'd buy in a heartbeat!
7. Solar panels on roof for both climate control and to recharge the batteries.
 
My boss has a Volt and is reasonably happy with it. He plugs in at home and uses a 120V outlet - hasn't noticed an increase in their electric bill (but his wife handles that, so not likely he'd know). Bigger problem is the formerly free charging that he got in the garage he uses at work is now charging quite a bit for charges. I don't find it to be very comfortable or pleasant inside.
 

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