I had a chance to use an LG 3570 washer w/Turbo Wash today!

[revvinkevin]

 

My friend Rich (Golittlesport) sent a text yesterday saying "Something new at our house!" with this photo.   During the conversation he suggested perhaps I could come over and do some laundry.   So I drove over this morning armed with my laundry basket!

 

Rich had mentioned the washer was really large, he even went on to suggest "perhaps it's too large".   With this in mind, I brought "two loads" with me, one would put this "large washer" to the test.   This is a nearly TOL machine (2 or 3 down from the top), but is rated at 4.3 cu.ft, with turbo wash, an internal heater and steam.

 

After we got back from breakfast, the laundry challenge ensued.  

 

I started with the "large load" first.  

 

This load consisted of:

FIVE (5) Cal King Size Sheets

FIVE (5) King Size Pillow Cases

TWO (2) Queen Size Sheets  

 

This load filled the wash drum right to the very top and was ever so slightly snug when adding the last item.

 

(there are no other photos or video because I forgot to bring my camera.   Also, the lack of an interior light, plus the smoked tinted plastic over the door glass, isn't exactly conducive to photos or video).

 

NOTE on Wash Water Temps:  WOW, they are even more "dumbed down" than my 2005 LG is!  

Of you want a "cold/cool wash" choose "warm".  

If you want a "warm water wash", choose "hot".  

If you want "hot", choose the "extra hot" temp (I believe this puts the internal heater in play). 

 

Turbo Wash:  I LOVE IT!   This made sure the entire load was completely saturated with water in short order, a MAJOR improvement over my 2005 LG!  That one can take up to 10 minutes of tumbling for the center of a large load become completely saturated!

 

Rinsing:  Rich will tell you this machine does a very good job rinsing.  I was quite surprised when my "sheet load" was rinsing, the water level was just below the edge of the drum/door boot!    The rinse water level on my 2nd and much smaller load was at nearly the same level!

 

During the cycle the washer EASILY handled this large load of sheets, washing and rinsing with nary a problem.   However, the spin before the last rinse was having trouble balancing.   I stopped it, opened the door and procedded to un-tie/un-tangle the large "knot" of sheets.  (This happens in my KM Elite FL washer with smaller loads too).   After this everything went smoothly, it rinsed beautifully.  I can only assume the final spin (set to "high") was 1200 rpm - NOT the extra high (1300 rpm) speed.

 

<span class="Apple-style-span">OTHER NOTES: While it does spin between wash/rinses, it does NOT do a full speed spin between </span>wash/rinses<span class="Apple-style-span">, EXCEPT the "towels" cycle.   It only spins for about a minute and at maybe 300-500 rpm(?) before moving on to the next rinse.</span>

 

<span class="Apple-style-span">When the cycle is first started, it wastes a lot of time with the 5 or 6 pulses of water before starting the main fill, with is cold at first, then (more or less) the wash temp you select.</span>

 

<span class="Apple-style-span">Same thing when draining/spinning.   The thing I DO NOT understand is WHY it cycles the drain pump DURING the </span>initial pump out for each drain period!   It's drains a few seconds and stops, drains a few seconds and stops, but it almost seems random.    

NOTE: the "Drain & Spin cycle" is 17 MINUTES!!!!!   GEEZE!

 

Well that's all I have.   Other than.... while the washer easily handled this large sheet load, the dryer on the other hand could not.   Yes I did have the ENTIRE load in the dryer for the first 20 minutes or so, but once it all started rolling in one large ball, stopped it, split it into 2 loads and continued drying.

 

I hope you found this interesting or helpful!

Kevin

 

PS:  It really SUCKS doing laundry with JUST ONE washer & dryer!!!  

  Ducks & runs??  

 

[golittlesport]

Thanks, Kev

It was great having you over to put the new machines to the test.

Kevin sat in front of the machines with a flash light for the entire cycles (something I have trouble doing) and discovered a few things about the machine I didn't know...like it does a spray spin rinse...or maybe you could say a "mist" spin rinse. I've never seen a front loader spray water into the tub while its spinning. Very cool.

It also does sort of a catalyst-action at the start of the cycle. It mixes the detergent with a little water and then sprays it onto the dry load during a very low speed spin. It does this until the load is saturated, then finishes filling for the wash.

I like that the water level is higher in the rinse cycles than the wash.

I love the high speed spin between all water changes in the "towels" cycle. I always had wished my previous washer, a Frigidaire front loader, had a cycle with a high speed spin after the wash to aid in rinsing heavy loads. This cycle really makes a big difference with great rinsing action. I'm happy.

My 2006 Frigidaire set went to live with my son and his fiancée. They just bought a new house.

 

[laundromat]

When the first models were introduced I think.it was around 1995, as small as they were ,3 cu ft., the new full size units were coming up like weeds. Neptunes , GEs, Duets...,etc. Then,up crops the LGs. They seam to be setting standards for everyone else to follow. Anyway, most of them had pre set water.bb levels from the factory and,if you were like me,you'd immediately try to increase the level to a more realistic,acceptable turbulanve. Mine are about 1/3 up the window. The WT1101 is fine as it is and reasonably done too. Not as severe as the fls in water savings.

 

[mrb627]

Pulsing Drain

The pulsing drain pump is probably similar to the F&P design whereby it pulses to help break up lint and drain it away. I would suspect the pulsing would help to shorten the life of the pump motor long term, you think?

Malcolm

 

[gansky1]

Rich, your son can't be old enough to be getting married.  Or, better said, I'm not old enough for your son to be old enough...

 

Everyone I know that has bought LG Front Load washers has been happy with them.  I'm glad they are using a higher water level for the rinse cycle.  The very first U.S. LG f/l washer I got from a friend used the same lower level as the wash.  I'm sure the dilution rates were within acceptable ranges, but psychologically at least, the higher water level is better.  I often wonder if the "race to the bottom" by manufacturers to use less water ended up being walked back to improve results.  Hopefully, that trend will emerge in the dishwasher realm as well.

 

Great looking set, Rich.  Hope you and Gary are both well!

 

[golittlesport]

Photos

I'm not the photographer Kevin is, but I snapped a couple photos of the turbo wash action. One is the spray of detergent water into clothes while tub spinning at the start of the wash cycle. The other is a shot of the spray with tub stationary. There are two turbo nozzles, at about 4 and 8 o'clock, that give a nice fan-shaped spray.

Thanks for the well wishes, Greg. Skylar must be all grown up now also. Where does the time go? It's been fifteen years or more we've all known each other and been talking washers.

 

[laundromat]

Fuzsy logic is the term. It was introduced back in the late eighties via Candy. The tub tumbles as the water drains out. It pauses to allow suds to go out and be able to increase spin rpms to extract the soapy water.

 

[jetcone]

Oh Im so

jealous not to be there playin ! Hmm mph !

 

And you get to do it without 70 inches of snow outside too!

 

Nice looking machines there!

 

 

[laundromat]

The only snow here is about 80 miles up Maunakea. Hot today. Eighty eight degrees. Going to the beach to get some rays. Washed a mixed load earlier. Already folded and put away.

 

[golittlesport]

Thanks, Jon!

I've been thinking of you with all that snow back there! At least your basement is nice and warm with that awesome GE combo!!

 

[gelaundry4ever]

my kenmore elite experience

Hi guys, I have the same experiences with you guys. my Kenmore elite has the accelawash which is an lg remix of the turbowash. I too love the water saturation, circulation and spray rinsing. If you put your ear to the door or glass, you can hear the spray hitting the back of the drum whether circulation or spray rinsing is taking place.

 

[pinkpower4]

Dumbed Down Water Temps

The front load design uses so little water, why would they “dumb” down the water temperature? Unless you run the water until it is hot, it is coming in cold/cool anyway until the water in the lines is run out. I did not know this. At least with my top load, I can manually fill the one cycle that adds cold with hot, if needed.

These restrictions are well intentioned but poorly thought out. Clean cycles were not needed on the old washers because hot was hot when needed. More time, more chemicals, and more water are wasted now. The cheap design means these wind up in landfills quicker too.

People like me try to save money any way I can. I am all for using the least amount of water and lowest wash temperature I can.

:-(

 

[mark_wpduet]

don't forget

these also have SPRAY RINSES

 

[golittlesport]

Fun to read this post of Kevin's review again. Hard to believe that was over five years ago! Time flies. These machines are still running like tops, no repairs.

I don't know that the water temps are actually dumbed down as much as the fact that the water heater is in the garage. By the time hot water makes its way to the machine, the tub is almost filled. I've learned to select hot when I want warm, and when I occasionally need real hot water I use the heater. I can also get "very warm" water purging the hot water line by running the hot water tap in the bathroom next to the laundry room before I start the machine.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

matching dryer

My matching steam dryer works perfectly too. One time, I set the dryer to normal cycle, disabled energy saver, and started it empty. When I opened it, heat started billowing out of it. I could also hear the airflow through the duct. If you put your ear toward the top of the control panel and start it, you could hear 2 clicks. I believe it's the relays engaging both heaters at full force. I wonder how lg dryer blowers are powerful yet quiet. Must be some fine Korean engineering, eh? Mine's Kenmore elite so that would apply. It too is made by lg.