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Pushbuttons!

Here you are! 8 cycles and red-to-stop, black-to-start
The red led and the indicator...unfortunately not found...

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Detergent dispenser

Left (cold) for prewash, right (hot) for main wash...
Now the machine is provided to work with a Y to fill with cold only

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And now let's open the drum!

I've just spoken wiht a man on a forum here (PLCForum) whose father wash an Ignis repariman and he told me thatn this system of drum opening rise up to the 50s that's the very first serie of this type of machine! Then the opening of the drum allow you to pull out the drum lids!

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Undressed :-)

The machine without the frontside panel. You were allowed to do that istantaneally (no screws!) to let you clean the filter which was mounted inside the outertub between that and the draining pump directly attached just there!

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...my first step in restoration!

Here it is my first step in restoration! I took away the draining pump and the filter and I started to repair the hose in the outer tub...what about! OMG...SHAME on me...what a bad job! :-((

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Fantastico!
Ti devo ancora una risposta decente per email! ;)
I hope you're going to fix that machine for good! It'll be a marvel after the restoration! Never seen something similar anywhere else!
 
Very interesting machine. It has several constructional details that I have never seen before. Now a question: I can see that the outer drum is fixed to springs and shock absorbers. Therefore I suppose that it can move inside the cabinet. When I look at the picture of the opened inner drum there is almost no space between outer drum and the grey funnel. Is this funnel flexible to allow the movements of the outer drum? It doesn't look very flexible. If it was, I would have expected a fold in the material to increase flexibility.
 
Is this funnel flexible

Well no it isn.'t. The part you're referred to (I call it "imboccatura") is hard plastic material and is mounted with a seal upon the outer tub...and both are completely independent from the cabinet! In fact if you see under the top through the cabinet lid you will see the back pair of springs... but there are indeed very few centimeters there(I suppose 1/2" max).

That was a very good choice in the mechanical costructioin of that kind of machine... no vibrations of the drum trasmitted to the cabinet and conseguentely no noise!

The mystery is why now producers are so ostinated to do those infiniteves folds of rubber to join the outer tub with the cabinet!?!?

Then the funnel as you called it got closed by the sliding door...

Oh...there are two lidswitch in this machine...one is under the cabinet lid and another one is on right of sliding door, but this one bacame problematic when aong the time the sliding door started to doesn't close thightly any long and blocked the machine...my aunt solved this problem with a clothes pin...LOL!

BYE! And ask me whatever you find not clear on this machine! I'll be glade to answer you!
 
Aha, so it is a similar construction as Asko uses for its front loaders: the door is attached to the outer drum and not to the cabinet.

May I suggest that you make a video from the opening and closing of the drum as it is so different from anything I (and I think many others too) have seen so far.
 
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NICE MACHINE!

In panel #237162 above, (the machine is siedways), is there a support "beam" that is supposed to be over the hub/bearings (center of tub)? The screw-holes on each side make me believe there is one not shown.

I just assumed that horizontal axis machines of this type would always support both sides of the tub.
 
Drum support in horizontal axis washers...

Drums of horizontal axis top loaders are sometimes supported on both sides (bearing on each side) like Diomede's machine and sometimes on one side only like a front loader. Drums of current Miele top loaders are supported on one side only. Drums of current AEG top loaders are supported on both sides.
 
Diomede,
Very cool machine! I might have missed the year somewhere. What year is it from?
I was thinking it would have a regular tub with agitator!
It is in really good shape!
Please share when you do your first run!
Thanks for the pictures!
Brent
 
Diomede

Wonderful machine, thank you for the pictures. It's a long time ago that we talked about Ignis and Philips topload H-axis machines. This is a different machine than I saw in the past. I think that was a Philips. It too had pushbuttons, but it was definitely a different machine.

Louis
 
THANKS! :-)

Oh... I thought it was of the early 60s but talking with a repairman's son of those yaears we discovered (looking at the drum lids opening system) that it might be even of the mid 50s...we don't know exactly the age of it.

LEAK! Unfortunately now the problem is that the machine leaks from below where the draining pump is fitted into the outer tub! I of course did wrong this fixing...

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I think that was a Philips

The story of this machine is very very long...but either if I've just told it I'm very glade to do it again...

Ignis was the first brand which started to produce between 50s and 60s this kind of machine...at that era we swapped from "semi-automatiche" (which was most twintub as Candy bi-matic) directly to the front loading WM which were representing "THE" completely-automatic washing machines... like 1964 Candy Automatic 3 wich Riccardo posted here some threads ago after have restored it.
Ignis differently from any other brands kept the top loading convenience with the horizontal drum, "invented" this machine!
Infact on the silver plate to the left of contfol panel you cand read "Superautomatica"...
Then the only-pushbuttons controls was to show more clearly the "automaticity" of this machine comparing with others...and it's not absolutely electronic!

Ignis lasted for years producing this machine...until the 90s!! The models became less deep, knobs on control panel were introduced, and the dispenser was moved into the opening under the top. So either after the fail of the firm (bought by Philips in the late 80s), if you wanted a TLHA 60cm wide it had to be Ignis!

After the 90s Philips introduced the Whirlpool brand (here we saw Whirlpool first in 1991!!)...but the machine was very different! In the 2001 the last Whirlpool branded model...

Now TLHA are all 40-45 cm wide and drum rotates back and forth...no machine left like this with the drum rotating left-right and wide 60cm...and with the outer tub independent from the cabinet!

I know very well that this is the machine you all american friends would like to have sold there...and for this I too write to Whirlpool to say that... This would be the revolution I think in American Laundry! Isn't it?!
BYE!
Diomede
 
Diomede, have a look at this, the USA actually have something like that! Staber produces a washer that is just like you IGNIS , have a look at their website! I think that it's the only firm that still has this kind of washing machine.
Thw drum rotates left and righ and is loaded from the top, opposed to the "usual" top loaders we see around in Europe. Have a look!
Anyway I believe that at STABER they're all thieves, the least expensive model costs around 1300 dollars! That's 1000 euros for a washer I can buy for 350 euros in any store!

http://www.staber.com/
 
That is one big motor you've got there!

This is one cool looking machine, thanks for the pics so we can see it better. I'm sure you will not have any trouble with the tub-to-pump hose, a little silicone is a like a miracle for these machines.

The Staber is an expensive machine for sure, but since each one is built (basically) by hand, the price is somewhat understandable. There are lots of other problems with the Staber washer that make it a bad deal though, not the least of which is the lack of any factory service network, the owner is expected to do the repairs themselves.
 

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