IGNIS! The pix

[vivalalavatrice]

STABER!??!?!

Gabri...ma che paragoni fai!?

There's absolutely non comparison with Staber...

Staber has got exagonal shaped drum
Ignis has got regular circular drum with 4 agitators (instead of 3 like common horizontal drum)

Staber has got the rubber seal that join the tub with the cabinet
Ignis is like Asko or old AEG which has independet tub from cabinet

I would never buy a Staber if I were there...the machine I own would be more appreciated from american market IMHO even if it has to be three times opend (cabinet, outertub, drum), because is really more like a FL than Staber is.

 

[dj-gabriele]

Hehe, I was only meaning the way you load it and how the drum spins
Ovviamente nemmeno io la comprerei mai! Hai visto che caratteristiche penose!? Come vedi ho fatto il paragone con 3 modelli che abbiamo nel Belpaese e tutti sono decisamente una lunghezza più avanti

Ahhh... la tua risposta per email sta finalmente per arrivare, chiedo umilmente perdono!

 

[Unimatic1140]

Yay for Ignis!!

WOW

Diomede that is one beautiful machine!!! A big vintage Imperial Forum Congratulations!

I have never seen a horizontal access top loader that has both an outer tub lid and an inner cylinder hatch.

As for fixing leaks, that can be a real challenge that many of us have been through. Keep up the good work and don't worry about how it looks from the inside, the important thing is that the leak stops. You might have to try three or four different things but you'll get it, that washer is too beautiful not to come up with a solution! Please keep us posted.

 

[funguy10]

Also Staber wants YOU to fix the washer if it breaks. They have NO costomer service!

 

[vivalalavatrice]

Thanks Robert!

Oh...thank you very much! I was waiting your opinion either. The "headmster"'s one!
If you say like that...you that you've restored and have seen restored so much vintage AWM...I'll be fine! I think the leak from outertub is the most serious problem...
The motor works, the drum can be easier fixed and the timer works too...that's it runs but don't know if the contacts go well! But I cannot check them untill I haven't stopped the leaks! Inlet valves are stiil to be checked.

What you call outer tub lid is only a cabinet lid...then the fantasmagoric inner cylinder hatch is the really outer tub lid (one time I think it were ermetic, but sliding so long I think it's not so more!)

I know it's a VERY-VERY-VERY rare machine...my dream machine!
The story you read it above...so you can understand why I'm so tight in saving it!

This machine and Riccardo (candyrijk)'s Candy automatic 3 are two "miliar stones", two fondamental objects of the Italian Industrial history...and social evolution!

OF COURSE...I'll keep you posted!

BYE
Diomede

 

[chestermikeuk]

Top Loader

Hello Diomede

Congratulations on finally getting your dream machine,looks in fine shape, luv the idea of removing the front access panel without undoing screws etc..

We had a similar machine here under the name of Stokvis, with the push buttons, and also a Philips but with a rotary timer..

I`m sure you will be an expert at fixing those leaks shortly, patience and a lot of bonding mastic will solve it I`m sure...

enjoy, Mike

 

[vivalalavatrice]

SILICONE!

YEAH! That's been the solution! So don't exitate to spend your money when the argument is restorating a WM.

I buy two cartidge of silicone, one was the red temperature-proof and the other one was the traditional trasparent.

The red I payd 1,20euro for it while the other costed to me 3,50euro. Though the differences were not only in prices but in tecnical features too: the read is either temp-proof but what a swearing to place it (never moulding it with the finger was good to grip on surfaces!)...so it was better the traditional one

Red one says temp-proof until 300°C...but a WM wouldn't work at soo hign temperature...the other one says 120°C...whihc would be good the same!

I placed it with my finger throuhg the hole laying it twice a day...one thin lay each time!
Wiht some little pieces of a rubber seal I empty the part too large to be closed with silicone only...I layed silicone out of the tub either in the same manner (finger, thin lay twice a day)

Now at end I mounted the draining pump and as the seal was too old it didn't hold good enough, so a little layer of silicone even around the draining pump edge.

Now you might see some drops over there but honestly it's not the "river" I saw a week ago! The floor however is dry!

Shoud I say...THE LEAK STOPS!? I don't know...but it seems to be so...

Tomorrow I hope there will be many pictures for you and I'll try to hook the machine up too, so I'll test the inlet valves, the level-switch (which I think has got some trick!) and the motor...

Then it would be up to the drum closing system (to rebuild completely!!!) but...there's enough to do for another week now!

I'm happy...but...SHSHSHHS...dont' say it loudly!

GOODBYE
Diomede

PS:the outside of the machine has got very few things to be done...

 

[Unimatic1140]

YAY for Diomede!

Silicone is a washer's wonder drug! Looking foward to some more pictures of this beautiful machine.

 

[vivalalavatrice]

Looking foward to some more pictures of this beautiful machi

...of course as soon as I'll get new batteries for my digital camera.

The problem now is the wiring...first of all I have to remake the ground wiring, then it is possible that the heating elements wirining have to be remade (the heat demaged some plug). Then I have to invent indee a drum lids blocking system...because I neither have a picture of the original...

Bye...Thanks Robert!
Hear you all soon
Diomede

 

[foraloysius]

Wonderful Diomede that you got one big step forward. It's worth the trouble!

 

[vivalalavatrice]

...and now the motor...:-(

Hi all! My work is going on...
I hooked up the machine:
- I couldn't use the Y to join the valves because they need a pair of new seals...so COLD FILL ONLY.
- I linked the cold valve with the only hose I had and it works quite well

The machine start well:
- select the programm (I used the "8" Rinse-only to try)
- push "I" to start and it goes in filling...no leaks (apart some drops from the inlet valve but it'll be useful to put all new seals!)
- levelscitch gave the consense to the timer, which gave the consens to the motor...BUT!

It makes only some round and then no more...If it doesn't work fill with water only...what about with a Bobload?! So I took away the belt and "miracolously" the motor started to spin...

I'll try to change the motor...but honestly I feel it's the solenoid-motor (we call it "condensatore" or "starter")...but imagine that I didn't found it...It would be integrated with the motor or I haven't been clever enough to search for it in the control panel tower...

I'll keep you posted!
BYE!
Diomede

 

[Unimatic1140]

Good work, Diomede! Yes trying to get the machines to work again can be a challenge, but like we say in America, "if there is a will, there is a way". And I'm sure you will figure out something in time. Keep up the good work.