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Are there any members here who have or have had an incinerator in their home?I was given one decades ago by one of the head radiologists at Johns Hopkins Hospital that burned all my trash w/out having to do anything but remove the ashes after it all burned up.I always wondered about the polution that may have been released by these pyrolitic appliances.
 
Remember Them

But they have long since been banned for buring domestic rubbish in this area.

Still, many NYC buidlings have "rubbish" shoots on each floor that go down to what was once the incinerator. Today the rubbish ends up either in a compactor or some sort of container awaiting collection.

IIRC, one of the causes for the bad air in cities was the many commercial and domestic buildings that burned rubbish. This included but was not limited to hospitals, large housing estates, and even local government sanitation departments.

Yes, all manner and kind of substances can be released into the air by buring of rubbish, or anything else for that matter. It is one of the reasons many "tree huggers" are opposed to incinerators of any sort, and those that function today likely have some sort of filtering system in place.

Believe burning of rubbish was popular in rural areas with limited or no organised sanitation collection, and or saved on landfill and or other means of getting rid of rubbish. After all it has to go somewhere and the previous alternatives such as dumping it into the sea/ocean and or above ground tips (dumps), began to take an environmental toll.

There are some who say cities like NYC have seen an explosion in rat populations is because rubbish is no longer burned by multi-family buildings, but must be stored for collection. At one time NYC had daily rubbish collection, now it is down to every other day. Can barely remember seeing large metal rubbish bins filled with ashes from building's.

L.
 


I remember the huge smoke stack on the old St. Joseph Hospital, at that time all the waste was burned. Now it's all shipped out in orange bio-hazard bags. Burning was banned in the early 70's. First they tore down the smoke stack, then the nursing school, now the entire west complex. Nothing stays the same.
 
Companies that do military work here were still allowed to burn classified trash up until ten years ago. A place I worked at finally shut their classified incinerator down in 1999; they were one of the last ones. Nowdays they have shredding trucks that come around and chop the classified trash into tiny bits.
 
Dioxin

I guess that in a small incinerator it' s very hard to reach proper hi temps to cut down dioxin emission. Close to Milan we had a huge dioxine exposure in the seventies, thanks to a Roche-Gibaudan chemical plant in Seveso.

Not the best stuff to deal with

Find very odd this came from a radiologist (a.k.a. "X ray exposed doc."). Maybe he had a nuke power station in the basement too *LOL*

 
Incinerators In Los Angeles' Past

It was not uncommon for some homes in Southern California to have incinerators up to the early 1960s. I can only speak for living in Los Angeles County. Here, the actual units were typically outside of the house, usually in a corner of the back yard far away from the back door or windows.

There were some houses that had units like the one shown in the 4/6/2009 Picture of the Day, but the only one that I can actually remember seeing inside was in a particular model home around 1964 or 1965, when my parents were house hunting. Waste King appliances were almost a given at the time in some new housing tracts (much like we today see bottom of the line GE, Kenmore, or Frigidaire items), particularly dishwashers and garbage disposals. The incinerator in question was a gas model that was in the garage, near the laundry hookups. My aunt and uncle bought a similar house nearby, but without the incinerator. As it turned out, this was a pricey extra that many passed on.

What most people had in their backyards, was a concrete and metal structure about five feet high and three feet wide, with a hooded funnel on top. Some had slanted fronts on which a hinged door was placed, while other incinerators resembled large filing cabinets. Most of these particular units had to have the fire started manually. Yes, certain youngsters noticed a vague similarity to the slant-front Westinghouses of the time.

Most people burned their trash on late Thursday afternoon, although this also happened on a couple of other days during the week. My grandmothers and mother all insisted that my grandfathers and father burn the trash on Thursday because it worked out best that way, and this was also the day that smoke and fumes were least objectionable.

Unlike today, most households here did not own automatic clothes dryers, but clotheslines. Monday and Saturday were the days that most washing was done. The smoke and smell generated by an incinerator would often be fairly thick in the air, often lingering for a day or so even with a moderate afternoon/evening breeze. To give an idea of what it could be like, imagine the smoke from a charcoal barbecue and multiply it by three. Children and pets were not usually allowed to play outside nearby when the trash was being burned, and this was certainly my experience.

Many people did not want the smoke to discolor and the smell to linger in just washed and dried laundry - the threat from birds was already bad enough. The thinking was that waiting a day after the burning would allow for smoke and odors to disappear and not contaminate what was being put on the clothesline. Even with the best of efforts, this still happened, and I remember more than once my mother having to rewash an entire load when the air was still during the summer months. This was also around the time when smog in Los Angeles began receiving attention in the national press, and was the target of many comedians.

Trash burning largely ended in LA County during the mid 1960s as many communities began to physically collect garbage and dispose of it in landfills (dumps). Some areas, as where my parents still live, outrightly forbade the burning of trash, and this restriction continues to the present day. Incinerator units are pretty much a memory here now, although there is an occasional newspaper or magazine ad that appears for them.

Darryl
 
I'm in a garden apartment (i.e. two-stories high) that was built after WWII, say 1946-ish.

Here is the door to the incinerator that is right in my kitchen. There are 4 chutes per incinerator; two upper apts. and two lower apts. (The kitchens are back-to-back.

Of course these are long sealed-over. Saw the ash clean-outs in the basement when I went to change the main electrical fuse. Note to self: Look for gas burners, perhaps used to start ignition.

Asked a Spanish-speaking friend about incinerators for garbage. He was taken aback. Apparently INCINERAR en Espanol is used to mean CREMATE, as well.

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Growing up we had an incinerator. We tossed everything in it. This would have been the late 60's. It was heavy, fire brick lined unit, had a timer to turn the gas off. Depending on what you burned it ran from 15 to 30 minutes. Pain was you still had to haul out the ashes. Ours was down the basement so we ended up carrying ashes though the house.

It has a 6" vent that ran into the chimney. My folks had that vent installed when the house was built in anticipation of the modern convenience. Of course the gas company really pushed these, along with the gas lamp posts that still dot the neighborhood. By the early 70's it was gone replaced with a compactor, that lasted into the 80's
 
shred to landfill, vs burn

we never had an incinerator, other than a barrel in the backyard growing up..Im not totally convinced that burning is not the best way to go, especially in rural areas's. at least the plastics and other "forever" materials are gone. I can see how it would be a problem in urban settings with smoke and soot. Burning paper including all those non solicited credit card offers and courtesy checks is a mighty effective remedy for "identity theft". So now many shred, big deal. Ever been around a hospital when the shredder truck comes for a couple of hours? They burn valuable and limited fuel, reek of diesel, and make an awful racket. I am sure its expensive, matches are pretty cost effective. IMHO its a tree huggin racket. alr2903
 
Remember them as a child.That "Tee-Pee" shaped unit in the backyard.the neighbors had them too.Later there was local trash pickup-vaguely remember the trash truck-was one of those "Roto-Pacs"the incinerators died because of air pollution concerns and more and more plastics in the waste streams.plastics really don't burn well in household incinerators-and please don't use your fireplace to burn plastics either.I had to warn my Dad.He loved to use his fireplace as an incinerator.Plastics fumes can damage chimney linings.And they cause MUCH pollution.At the place I work at now it used to have a commercial-institutional Morse Bolger incinerator.Later it was removed and replaced with a FL trash truck container.The smell of burnt trash in the morning was not welcome.We all complained and the incinerator was removed and replaced with commercial trash pickup.Confidental waste goes thru a level 6 shredder-and the bags put in the trash.the Pentagon still uses its energy recovery incinerators to help generate electric power and heat for the building.They generate enough paper waste to keep their operations going!Commercial-institutional,household incinerators were great when we generated primarily paper waste.that burned well and with min pollution.and of course incinerators give better "size" reduction than any compactors and shredders.The shredder trucks aren't so bad-the shredded paper waste can go to the pulp plant for recycling.I thought they were amusing to watch-the body shudders and shakes while its grinding up the paper waste.Some have a video screen so you can see the paper being chopped up.Good for if the waste has to be "witnessed" for legal reasons.Some shredder trucks now have a power plug in so it can take electric power from the customers building while shredding-the driver can turn the truck engine off while shredding.This would save fuel.In places where the building power isn't available-then the driver has to run the truck motor to shred.the trucks PTO runs a generator instead pf a hydraulic pump.This allows the shredder to run of "shore power" or the truck power.I beleive Shred Tech is going to this system.And with shore power-from the building-the shredding is quieter since tyhe truck engine isn't used.The shredder runs from 208-230V 3 phase power.Oh yes-just remembered the incinerator at the high school I went to-since I was in woodshop class-the "dumpings" from the cyclone had to be dumpted into the incinerator-at first was scary-but learned how to dump right without any "flareups" from the unit.FOWOOM! would go the shavings and dust-same with the tissue paper and paper decorations from the prom-that incinerator loved that stuff-was as much fun to feed as the Marathon compactor.I bet high school kids today don't get that fun becuase of liability and such.
 
I think residential burning here stopped sometime in the 70's. Seems like growing up we always had something that looked like a metal trash can that had holes all over it...I dont remember my father every emptying it..although I'm sure he did..but we also had trash pick up once a week..back then the garbage man as he was called..would come in your yard, get your trash can, empty it and then put it back. My neighbor will fire up a burn can every once in awhile..he always does it at night when code enforcement is off the clock..I'm alway tempted to call the non emergeny number and report him..but on the other hand he's pertty quite and I think why stir something up...but it does stink..he was burning something plastic a couple months back and I actually thought there was a house fire somewhere in the neighborhood. does anyone still burn leaves??? we're not supposed to..but in the fall you see someone with a blaze going.
 
No leaf burning here; the city does a once-a-year pickup in the fall. Actually, the city has a munincipal incinerator, but I don't think leaves go in it. They haul leaves to the botanical garden, and they compost them for mulch. The botanical garden also takes Christmas trees in January; they run them through a chipper and use that as ground cover.

The city incinerator created some controversy when it went into operation, but it burns pretty clean and it has greatly reduced the growth of the landfill. It generates steam, which the city sells to a nearby military installation for building heat and industrial processes.

I don't ever remember household incinerators in this area.
 
Therm-Tec cremators

In Glendale, Az. We have a large pet crematory with one cremator that is SOOOO big you could drive the largest SUV into it and still have room for more. We had an elephant named Ruby that died and was cremated in it. Sheriff Joe also uses it to dispose of drugs. Never any smoke from the stack, just heat waves. This company, Therm-Tec also makes hospital/medical waste incinerators......Bill in Az.....
 

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