Miele vs fisher and paykel

[johnbee]

So people of this group.
My lovely (kinda love&Hate feelings) whirlpool dishwasher is dying slowly.
Normal cycle will stop in the middle, 1hour will stop at the final rinse and the only fully functional one is the Pots&Pans.

I bought this dishwasher 3 years ago Second hand and portable. Last year it start leaking, it was the inlet hose, which made me convert it from portable to regular-under the counter- dishwasher.

Now I realized its time for a proper unit.
I'm debating with husband between Miele and Fisher&Paykel dishdrawer.
I'm a big Miele fan so my first thought was "ok , lets go for another Miele since we already own a washer/Dryer set from the same brand".

But now he claims that Dishdrawer makes more sense for a family of 2 since we can run smaller loads when we run out of wine glasses for example.

From my end, I really don't like the plastic tub of the dishdrawer and the lack of an upper spray arm.

Does anybody has experience with those fancy dishdrawers?

 

[DADoES]

 
I have a DD603, 17 years.

I like it fine. Works nicely for a one- or two-person household.

Newer units are more frugal on water usage, fewer water changes.  There have been numerous changes on the design since they were introduced 23-ish years ago.

Single spray arm is not an issue being that each drawer consists of one rack, other than the small side shelves.  The spray is appreciably strong.  Lightweight/plastic items are often to flip if not anchored.

Plastic tub material is not an issue.  It's sturdy, assuming current models are equivalent in construction to older units.

Each cycle always heats the wash and final rinse to specific target temperatures (which vary per the cycle and options).  Cycle time is extended as needed to reach temperature.  The installation instructions advise a standard hot water supply connection but they can be run on a cold connection ... assuming the heating capability hasn't changed on current models.

There is no drying heater.  A small fan exhausts moisture for a drying period (with the drawer lid sealed) using residual heat from the rinse for evaporation.  The lid unseals at end of the drying period, the fan continues to run for a period of time or until the drawer is opened.  The cycle can be canceled after the final rinse drain and the drawer opened for a flash-dry effect if desired.

Don't get one, you'll garner no respect from 99% of the group here if you do, LOL.

 

[easyspindry]

My F&P dish drawer unit . . .

. . . is 14 years old.  I LOVE 'em.  It's perfect when one doesn't have tons of dishes per meal.  They're quiet while operating and do a wonderful job of cleaning.

 

It was a big change for me when I bought them, but have never regretted my choice.  And if you should have company and generate more dishes, you've always got two drawers which can be run simultaneously. 

 

Jerry Gay

 

[ozzie908]

Have had both

Currently using a Miele dishwasher but have acquired a used dish drawer as am going back to them all being well as am able to fill the top rack pretty quickly and always have to wait to fill the lower rack before running the cycle so it makes sense as we are a 3 person household and I hate having stuff in the sink waiting for the Miele to finish.

Both machines are excellent in IMHO and you get what suits you best at the end of the day !

Austin

 

[whatsername]

Love the dish drawer. Had the tall model + sanitize. I just bought a new house and have a new one arriving Monday as I left the last one in the old place. They’re fantastic and so ergonomic—adjusting to bending over to load a normal dishwasher seems nonsensical and archaic now.

 

[nmassman44]

I had a FisherPaykel dish drawer for 3 short years and I too was liking the novelty of it and all. But, when it comes to entertaining guests and the holidays, forget it. That dishwasher was running constantly and thats with both drawers running. I started having major issues within 3 years and the top drawer decided to have more issues than I wanted to deal with. That dishwasher was replaced with a Miele that lasted me 10 years. I loved the Miele since it was quiet and did an amazing job all around. I replaced that dishwasher when we had a power surge that caused the computer to fry out on me and replacing it would have cost a cool $1k...not worth doing on a 10 year old machine in my opinion. So I bought an LG dishwasher that has been doing ok except for the rusting upper rack, cracked control panel and the motor whine ...we sold our home and the place we bought in FL has a Bosch Ascenta dishwasher that I am looking forward to using.

 

[johnbee]

I think the winner is

Fisher and paykel.
You convinced me guys and hubby wants the same as you.

I will start looking for deals so hopefully we can replace our Whirlpool soon.

btw what about detergent? would I have to use 2 tabs ? or cut the tabs in half??
Also do I have to worry about water and drain? I read that units operate independently , that means I need 2 drain and 2 water supplies?

 

[DADoES]

 
One water supply connection, goes to a dual-valve (assuming that's not changed).

Separate drain hoses, which connect together via an included Y-adapter to one port on the plumbing.

A tray is included (AFAIK) that sits on a compartment of the silverware basket for pods or tablets.  Only powder can be placed in the dispenser.  I advise to use powder so the dosage can be controlled.  Pods often are an overdose.  I can't use them (leastwise not Cascade Platinum) due to oversudsing which impairs spray pressure and arm rotation ... and can trigger overfilling.  Fill level is sensed via current draw on the pump motor.  Water may be added if the level is sensed to have dropped, such as from a flipped bowl taking on water ... or reduced pump load from sudsing.

 

[whatsername]

I've had good luck with powder by Cascade, and whatever the Target store brand is now. It's getting harder to find every time I go shopping though.