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-strange normally it really has to raise the waterlevel in the rinse cycle... maybe extra programable option.. That's there new rinse cycle is 2 long rinses on a high water level if you use cold-medium temperature there are 3 rinses...

-doesn't fill only cold? again strange??? maybe you have to switch the machine buy pressing a code or so

-does not reach the full 1600??? That's veeeeeeeeeery strange post a video maybe there's someting wrong or so... or maybe not and it's so quite...:p

Please keep us posted... Really lik you machine!!!
 
Hi Jamie,

I've got a 2515 which has a similiar control panel, but is the 5.5kg model.

Most of the bads you talk about are programmable options. I'll email you the user manual for the 2515, or you can ring Miele, whichever you are more comfortable with.

The Cooldown above 70degC is a programmable feature, the 2515 manual states, that it is only necessary for plumbing that doesnt meet Australian and British standards from 1974, otherwise its not required.

The rinse levels/options are programmable and can make the following changes when sensitive is pressed:
option 1: Add an additional rinse
option 2: Raise the water level in the wash and 2 rinses
option 2: Add an additional rinse and raise the water level.
I've got both my machines programmed to just add the extra rinse, and I find the 3 low level rinses do an adequate job. I've just switched back to two low level rinses due to water restrictions here, and the rinsing is still reasonable. Depending on the absorbancy of the fabric, the machine measures the time it takes for the load to cool down after wash, and if it cant cool down within a fixed period of time, it adds another rinse. Also if you spin below 600Rpm and add Sensitive, it should acheive a 4th rinse.

With the softener draining, check that your syphon tube is correctly installed as per the manual. It is normal however for a puddle of water to remain in the bottom. I've had mine for 2 years now, and I dont bother about leaving the dispensor drawer open after the cycle, only the washer door, and I'm yet to have any mould problems. I dont even wipe the boot heaven forbrid :)

To set a hot and cold fill machine (Like my 2888) to cold fill only, Miele need to come onsite with their computer and program the functionality in. The the change to the hot and cold fill is a service only programmable feature. After having had a cold fill 2515 for 18 months, and getting a hot & cold fill 2888, I'm yet to see any performance difference, only a decrease in cycle times.

With the 1600RPM spin, my 2515 only hits its max of 1400 in the final two minutes of spin. My 2888 only hits 1800RPM in the final 2 minutes of spin. Otherwise the other 6 minutes or so, should be at about 1000-1200.

Let me know if you'd like any more information.

Regards

Nathan
 
Askomiele,

The American machines are somewhat different than the European models. They don't have as much preprogrammable options as the European models, at least preprogrammable by the owner. It might just be that Jamie might have to contact Miele. Have a look at the manuals at the American Miele website. You will see that there aren't as much options as on the European models. I think the lower water levels are a default setting that can't be changed, at least not through normal procedures. I bet there are possibilities to change it, but that will probably have to be done by a Miele technician.

Another thing is that these Mieles are connected to hot and cold water, they fill with a somewhat lower temperature than the temperature that is selected IIRC. It's the same system as the Miele Allwater has.
 
Oke right forgot about that... this is an american machine your right foraloysius... uhu but with a service call maybe you should get all problems solved maybe even without an intervention...
 
Bleach dispenser

Foraloysius,

Based upon your information I have downloaded the manual for the Miele W4840 and now I see how it works with bleach. I wonder if there are other adaptations in the mechanical construction as the manual of my late Miele washing machine specifically warned against the use of chlorine based products because they could harm the machine.

I also prefer the more classic design of this machine over the Mega Mieles.
 
I bet you're enjoying using your new Miele, that load of towels you did looked very colourful and they came out nice and clean too!

What do you think of it's special Honeycomb Drum? It looks nice doesn't it? Here's a couple of advantages. It really cares for your clothes and it doesn't leave a hole pattern on the laundry after spinning which of course is a good thing!

Do you know what I do with mine? Well, I deliberately raise the water level myself by pouring a few litres (Sometimes More.) through the dispensing draw until the level is very high! It may mean more water but it does give better washing and rinsing results though! Maybe you can do that if you're not happy with the normal level of water in the machine.

Just a little bit of advice from me!

Keep on washing!
 
Jamie - neat machine!

I have to say that your list of cons is similar to mine, though ours offers the programmable functions to get over those issues.

I often just use the standard default 2 low level rinses and it's actually amazing how well it rinses laundry with so little water, yes it's boring but does such a great job that for a lot of the "set and leave it" loads that we do as a family that I only really use the extra rinse/extra water if I want washday fun, not necessarily for better rinsing performance! (Ask me a year ago and I'd have said different, but having used the standard rinsing for months now I'm more than happy to not press the extra rinse and water plus buttons!).

To solve your hot water issue - have you tried connecting a y-piece to the plumbing? That would solve the "errors" you'd get - I know they have this as a possible installation in the US manuals so yous hould be able to get it to profile heat up from cold.

Enjoy the machine! I'm sure you'd come to love it, if not already. I swear by mine, and will never be without one :-).

Jon
 
It's nice to hear so much excitement about our best German washing-machine brand ever: MIELE!!
There was a rhyme saying at the time of my grand-ma:

"Nur MIELE, MIELE!", sagte Tante, die alle Waschmaschinen kannte.

Translation:
"Only MIELE, MIELE!", said Aunty that knew all washing-machines.

But that was already at the times when there were no drum-machines available but all machines were built with woodden tubs and agitator and were driven by hand, water-pressure motor or electric motor, depending on the model and price.

Ralf
 
STTP is...

As taken from the Internet:

STTP — sodium tripolyphosphate — the most commonly used phosphate in detergents beef up a detergent’s cleaning properties by softening hard water and preventing carbonates from settling on the clothes washed.

Andrew S.
 
Cold water only and misc info

I have mine on cold water only, however, I was adviced to connect both hoses and use a spilter, it has worked well, although, in the winter time, sometimes it will give me the intake falt just like you decribed. These machines only spin up to 1300 rpm's, and heat atll the way up to 190 F the very hot is 170, hot is 140, very warm is 120 warm is 105, cold is 85, and finally no heat is tap.I asked for the reason that I was accostmed to the novatronic where you set the tem on the big knob, when this series came out, i wanted them instad of the W1986, the tub is better and more gentle on the clothes.One thing that you should know, according to Miele Monty,the tub design contributes and makes up for the spin speed in this way, that it may not be spinning at 1600, the tub makes up for it by helping to extract like it is spinning at 1600. BTW, if you want to see a high water level in this machine, i know that the Wrinkle free sensitve setting can some what accomplish this, that is the way I always set mine as follows, Warm 105-sensative, heavy soil and extended, it just depends on what you are washing, I have even seen it add time for another rinse if the machine feels it has high suds. The Delicate setting has the highest water level of anything, it spins on low, it is fun to watch.This machine is very intuitive.
 
Oh Louis

You would turn me onto the newest largest Miele. Over here it states the 4800 and 4840 have a PC update function where a "technician" can update your washer at anytime with his laptop PC!
Ofcourse I would need the whole program on my computer and the sacred connector to the machine!! LOL
The 4800 has the honeycomb drum------NICE!
Yet they are still in a 27 inch cabinet.

Are you saying in the NL the 4800 runs only on 110Volts? So the water heater will be slower? Over here the only choice we have for washers is 110V EXCEPT for my 1950's Duomatics which run in 220V and the water heater and dryer run on 220V.

I want to take apart a W4800 SOON! Do they have the Service manuals online???

jet
 
To the best of my knowledge, Miele does not have have service manuals on their USA website. Nor, do they have a parts supply network outside of Miele. If you want/need a part it is ordered from their warehouse, and usually sent directly to the Miele tech who will be coming to your home for the repair. Though many techs have a good supply of parts of their own.

Some Miele techs work for Miele, others are independent contractors trained to work on Miele products and have access to parts and such. Miele will send certian parts directly to a customer, such as dispenser drawers, shipping bolts, etc. Do not think they will send things like a motor for DIY work, but could be wrong.

L.
 

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