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Anyone good with modern stereos? I have a Phillips stereo and several years ago the radio quit on it. I hadn't used it for about a month, and when I went to listen to the radio, is was nothing but dead air. I thought maybe my antenna come unplugged, but it didn't.

I'm wondering if it would be worth taking to stereo shop or not. Here's a picture of it.

The 3 cd changer, cd burner, and the auxiliary jack all work perfectly. A friend said their might be a fuse for the radio that could have blown.

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take it to a shop?

in a word: no. Nothing audio-wise is meant to be repaired these days. It's all disposable merde, like just about everything else. Unless it's something simple like a plug or a fuse, it's been nice knowin' it and time to move on.

I'd suggest something vintage with point to point wiring and fixable. A tube receiver from the 60s or solid state from the 70s (silver face usually) is a great place to start, and the best place to buy one is from a local Raio-TV shop if you can find one, that way you can hear it and they should stand behind when repairs are needed. Our 2 cents.
 
Did you make sure the modern day version of  the "Tape Monitor" button hasn't been activated?

 

If the radio is done for, it's time to toss the whole thing and do what Roger has suggested for replacing it.
 
at the price of repair-per-hour, around here it's 89.00 per hour, sometimes its not worth it, unless its a vintage piece that you really care about.....

if it's like the beauty parlor my sister visits, they may give you a FREE estimate before the work is done!.....

some places like the one here offer reconditioned units for sale...some even vintage, with a warranty....worth a shot.....
 
It was about 1986 or so when stereo manufacturers started moving their R&D dollars to home theater and except for a very few specialty firms stereo has stayed the same. I look at 86' as the pinnacle years for good home stereo. Then around 1987 a shake out occured in the industry sent a lot of brand name stuff into mergers and shut downs. Also the 70's & 80's were a boom time for home stereo. Everyone wanted a stereo that sounded and looked good.

If you look carefully, you can buy a decent home stereo for about $300.00 or so.

Example: (Used from Ebay)
AR4X Speakers - $100.00
Pioneer SX525 Receiver - $75.00
Either turntable or CD player your choice.

This would give you a system that would sound much, much better than any all in one unit you could find. And this stuff was made to last!
 
Console stereos:

There are some fairly compact ones out there, I've seen some as small as 24-30" across, and some on legs, almost like a wood version of the old style portables on a stand. Another approach for the space limited: we've been guilty of gutting old consoles for their innards for over 30 years, starting with a Fisher in the mid-70s. One can always build the guts into a small case, or even just put it on a shelf: take it all out of the cabinet and reconnect it, ditch the usually cheesy console speakers (unless they're out of a Fisher, Pilot console) and connect to compact bookshelf jobs... we have a '62 RCA like that in our basement electronics "lab" right now.
 
Not Worth it:

I had a TEAC system like yours, although much less functional ten years ago. FM Radio worked fine, but AM seemed like a gimmick, since it never worked. For the last 3 years, you had to hold the pause button the tape deck to make it at least not stop playing... It only recorded mono, whichever channel the speaker was connected to (Major caveat).

 

Then, I "upgraded" to a Yamaha KX-W232 dual-cassette deck. That stopped sounding good in 2011, sadly, so I replaced it with a JVC TD-V531, Denon DR-M22 and an Onkyo Integra TA-2800, all 3 Head, Dual Capstan, Dolby B/C/HX Cassette decks. The Onkyo requires service, which will happen when I procure the funds, the Denon is my desktop playback only deck (too basic, but still sounds great) and the JVC is PERFECT in every right. I also have a set of $99 speakers and an old TEAC Servo Amplifier, with 5 inputs. I'm still interested in finding a nice CD Player for the whole arrangement. 

 

This all cost me around $700 - be about $1000 when I'm done. If I were you, go vintage, and get a nice Hi-Fi from the 80s (separate components). I believe Technics is a good budget brand to start on, but Yamaha, JVC, Nakamichi etc are all great brands. You'll have a Hi-Fi system forever by doing this, whilst saving landfill and expanding your vintage collection of goods!
 
I agree

Even though one of my stereo components is not working perfectly well now, CD player, I do like the way my 30 plus year old Bose speakers still will crank when I want them to with the satellite music stations on DirecTV. And I dont have to worry about bothering any neighbors around here. Everything else is all original Pioneer, even the wooden turntable. Buy vintage now and keep them is my advise.
 
Still have my early 1980's home stereo system: Onkyo Amp and Onkyo tuner, Denon direct drive turntable, and Polk Audio Model 10 speakers. All works, but it's not currently assembled. The speakers got taken by the home theatre setup, but even that is currently not hooked up since I rearranged the living room some years back. Big Yamaha home theatre receiver still in unopened box, lol.

Maybe I'll get it all hooked up both in the living room for the home theater system and the family room/office for the stereo system, one of these days. I sort of miss having nice sounding LOUD music in the home.
 
After we got burgularized in the early 90's I used Ebay to buy our current setup.
We have an SAE preamp, EQ unit and A301 main Amp coupled to a Dual 701 turntable with an new Yamaha CD-C600 CD player. I use the legendary AR-3a Speakers. If I was to buy this all new when it first came out I probably would have spent abut $8,000. By watching Ebay and waiting for just the right components to come up over a period of a few years I was able to assemble the whole thing for about $850.00.

And so far no problems at all.
 
An all in one stereo like the one you are having troubles with likely isn't worth repair if you look at things purely from a financial standpoint. If you know someone that might do the service on the side of you really care about not perpetuating the throw away society, these are the only reasons to consider service.

I have been 2 channel HiFi hobbyist since the late 70's and I did audio repair in the mid 80's for a time when I got out of electronics school.

"Affordable" HiFi components peaked in the US in the early 80's. By about 1985 many of the HiFi manufacturers were starting what I call the "MidFi slide". Basically we saw a parting of the waters where the companies that made decent gear in the late 70's to early 80's all slid down into the lower MidFi market. The true audiophile gear of that time started to slide yet further upscale, getting far higher priced and more limited in choices. This was a result of all the manufacturers trying to simply capture the most lucrative part of the market as people's tastes moved from quality into portability and convenience. Home theater multichannel audio and MP3's and portable audio would greatly increase the HiFi gap in the years that followed.

Indeed there is a lot of good vintage gear to be had on ebay, CL and local estate/garage sales. The only rub is that much of the 70's to 80's vintage equipment will require a bit of TLC due to age. Some components, mostly electrolytic capacitors will have aged to the point of being non-usable in some cases today. The various controls on the components have likely gone noisy from dirt, oxidation and non-use. All these problems are fairly easily put right but if it a DIY project one has to know which end of the soldering iron to hold etc.

I tend to be a fan of early 80's gear from Yamaha, Sony and NAD and some of the separate components from Hafler and Adcom are great deals today. I dabble in a lot of yet older vacuum tube audio too but this requires someone that is willing to do the work. Just like an old car they WILL require work.

The one part of vintage HiFi that I'm not a fan of is old speakers. Yes many of the old JBL and EV and Klispch speakers were very efficient and played LOUD, but age hasn't helped them. One can replace surrounds and spiders and even the cones themselves, but design of those days were pretty hit and miss. Modern speaker labs have much better instrumentation and design tools so todays speakers do sound better. But note that this only applies to ones that are high quality, most of the modern low cost stuff on the market is junk today, and I would take an old pair of AR-2's over that in a heartbeat! Note I say this owning a number of old Alnico magnet JBL's that are used a musical instrument speakers!

Bottom line is to figure out what your needs are and if the music makes you happy then you are set. Nobody else can tell you otherwise :)
 
You hit the history of what happened to HiFi on the head. Exactly what happened.
Fortunately, my AR-3a's were early build models and have cloth surrounds on them.
I have a pair of JBL 4311 Control Monitors in excellent condition but they have been in storage for several years. The foam still looks fine.

I totally rebuilt the crossovers on my 3a's. The difference in sound was unbelievable. Sometime I'd like to get a pair of AR-4x's & rebuild those. I had a girlfriend back in 1971 that I purchased a Pioneer SX-424 receiver and a pair of $x's for. That cheap little system sounded damn good considering I only paid about $250.00 for it.
 
Is there much future for analog radios? Most countries seem to be going over to digital broadcasts, the same as with TV.
 
My Retro System

This is my present system, its all mid 70s and i love it build quality is superb as is sound, i have been involved in hi-fi for about 26 years now, and have owned legions of gear the 70s to me was the peak for japanese gear, come the 80s the japanese stopped investing in audio research and poured there resources into video recorders.

DAB
thats dying on its feet, In germany they have stopped erecting DAB masts because of lack of interest from the public and also the backers, a lot of backers are pulling out in the UK, sound quality was never better than FM analogue and now it is even worse (same applies to most FM stations bar a few), the only real benefit was for advertising as most of the stations relied on the advertising revenue to stay afloat, its always been a joke in certain circles and still remains one.

Gary

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Japanese stuff didn't really peak in the late70s. Remember Nakamichi were pumping out nice decks onto the 90s. My Onkyo is from the very end of the 80s, and is simply amazing what it can do in terms of features and sound quality
 
Been in Audio 50 years...

built my first tube amp in 1964. Still all tube here, 4 different vintage tube (Sargent-Rayment, Bell, Bogen & RCA) systems, vintage Altec Lansing Voice of the Theater, JBL, and Pilot and RCA speakers, 1961 Lenco turntable, and reel-to-reel. Former Writer/Editor for a vintage Tube audio magazine out of Cali, now defunct. Have owned almost every McIntosh, Marantz, Fisher &c tube amp ever made over the 5 decades...Tube analog rules!!
 
Tube rules!

I hear ya Firedome. My system isn't quite as elegant as yours however I do use a Sony open reel, Technics TT, Dynaco preamp pushed into two nice EICO tube monoblocks. Sansui tuner.
I do have a McIntosh amp but it's on the bench now. Long term project...
And I always keep a VM mono phono nearby. I'm a big VM fan... long story...
That being said, Gary you blasted me to the past with that Sony tuner and amp.
I used to work for Sony, gosh those units were the absolute bomb.
And GROOVY too.
 

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