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As I am opposed to any animal testing, and as much as I can try to avoid certain chemicals in my household, majority of under-the-sink kind of products were substituted for their *better* siblings.
However, finding a laundry detergent that would cope with one's needs is still in progress. Gone through probably most of the stuff available, and is there actually anything that gets the job done?
For delicates the Ecover liquid seems to be doing a good job, completely outperforming Planet. It doesn't stand up to Vaska, but as the latter labeled as delicate-safe rather than designed for woolens and silks one can't be certain and will not experiment.
Mrs. Meyers 64 Load Detergent (big bottle) is mediocre at best. Scented with *fragrance* rather than essential oils it leaves quite a lot of smell - and that's it. The 68 Load (flip-top-cap bottle) seems to be decent and loaded with plenty of enzymes, borax and so on. However it's extremely concentrated, and while the suggested dosage doesn't cut it, any drop more and one may end up setting a fourth additional rinse, mind you in a top-loading machine. It seems some ingredients cannot be concentrated (think borax) and will need to be used in decent quantities to do their job.
Vaska does outstanding job on everything but coffee- and oil-based stains such as cooking surprises and ring around the collar(well, spf 50+ leaves it's marks). For darks, especially denims and sportswear, there doesn't seem to be anything else better, since it's only surfactants.
Seventh Generation powder (white flower and bergamot scent) was ok, with the help of soaking and oxygen bleach whites were almost acceptable, pastels too. Unfortunately it's discontinued and the new edition's ingredients aren't too convincing.
Planet Powder does nothing in terms of brightening whites (although some Amazon reviews claim it fades darks like bleach). Although the fabrics *feel* clean, most of the stains were left behind. Even the Whole Foods Lavender Powder performed better while being very so-so.
CitraSuds Lavender Liquid, while being completely enzyme-free, did an almost acceptable job on colors and darks with heavy pretreating.
Whole Foods Baby Liquid, loaded with promising ingredients, did nothing. Completely, utterly nothing in terms of stain removal; however everything seemed to be perfectly clean otherwise. Maybe with the home-mixed stain remover (water, ammonia and dish liquid for oil-based stains, hydrogen peroxide, dish liquid and baking soda for anything else) it would have done better, but there was absolutely no time to spare for such a wonderful joy.
All the 'organic and certified and what not' detergents seem to be based on soap nuts and blends of essential oils, nothing promising at all - and so were the results, as if washing in plain old water alone, regardless of dose. No stain removal, no softness, no clean feeling, no nothing. Absolutely, utterly nothing. Silly to believe any of that one was when picking up the first and last bottle. Same goes for organic dishwasher detergent. In fact, those two seem to have almost identical ingredients. How is it profitable to even keep them on the shelves?
In fact, the natural dishwasher detergents seem to be a bit more forgiving. Method is definitely the leader, Ecover tabs right after. Trader Joe's packs do better than their powder although sharing exactly the same ingredients (and the dosing was heavily experimented with). Ecover powder was very acceptable.
Only the organic stuff and Wave (Ecos) did completely nothing.
 
Sounds

Like the Vaska did the best for you?
I've never used it, but I think when you go "natural" pre treating is just going to be part of the routine. Same way it was years ago before modern detergents, enzymes, oxygen bleaches, ect
 
Well, it seems like it's the only way. Currently hunting for an enzyme booster I believe might increase the performance levels.
Just as an update, Seventh Generation dishwasher gel, as opposed to its powder brother, is one of the worst I ever used. It seems like running my portable Maytag Jetclean with no detergent at all would bring better results than using this. My local store doesn't carry Method tabs, so maybe the CitraDish powder will clean tonight. We'll see in the morning!
 
Try...

Try a brand called Earth Friendly Products, like you, I am completely against animal testing. Thankfully I have come across loads of products from around 20 different retailers, they're all leaping bunny and all do a brilliant job, to the point of a £3 detergent (around 6 dollars) even removed a 2 day old pure blueberry stain (without pre treating). I'm in the UK though.

Anyway, earth friendly products are USA, so you will definitely be able to get them. They do a brand called Oxo Brite, in powder or powder pods and you just add them along with your normal detergent, they do a good job.
 
Taking a cue from Allan's thread (Liquid vs. Powder Laundry Detergent) in the Deluxe forum, I ordered a tin of Nellie's All Natural Laundry Nuggets (pods), primarily because the cute tin that can be reused for other pods/pacs. It's also available in powder form (called Laundry Soda; photo #2 below). Should arrive within ten days, at which point I'll make a full report.

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Eugene, thank you for the info. We'll definitely try it. The Nellie's formula is almost identical to Charlie's Laundry Powder, which is hands-down the best smelling laundry product we've ever found. I hope it smells as good.
 
Oh...

This is a similar formulation to the "Planet Ark Aware: Sensitive" powder I was using this time last year. 

Rinsed quite well, but cleaning on more stubborn stains in the FL Miele was, well, pathetic (Even with Pre-Wash and long soaking periods). 

 

I made a thread about it after converting back to the enzyme "Bio-Zet" powder: http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?49656 

 

You may find the need to add LCB/Oxy-Clean/Borax (etc) to improve the results in the wash. 

And on a side note, Frigi, I've been meaning to ask how effective you find your regular detergent choice without adding LCB?
 
Jeff--- I have no idea how Nellie's will do, but will soon find out. I'm generally skeptical of the cleaning power of all-natural soaps/detergents, but the tin the nuggets come in is cute and can be reused.

I'm a little leery of soaps (vs. detergents) since soap likes a warm rinse. As per discussions with Launderess a couple of years ago, soap can create a residue on both machine and fabrics if the first rinse is cold. I can accommodate that by using the Steam option on the Frigidaire, which provides a heated, 120 degree first rinse and a lukewarm 2nd rinse. It adds 20 minutes to the cycle time, but part of that can be offset by reducing the wash time.

Is Charlie's your daily driver laundry product? How does it do with heavily-soiled or stained loads?

I tried a laundry soap back in 2008. It left bath towels nice and soft, but neither the Frigidaire top- nor front-loading machines I had at the time offered a warm rinse, so I'd have to be around to fiddle with the controls mid-cycle. It didn't do a great job on stained loads, but was fine for most others. It wasn't Charlie's brand...can't recall what it was. At any rate, I never ordered it again.

Washer111--- I use the Sanitize cycle for loads of heavily-stained kitchen whites. Tide, Wisk, and Kirkland Ultra Clean (from Costco) pods all do an excellent job without liquid chlorine bleach. The wash tumble is 70 minutes long, so nearly high-quality detergent will do well. Plus, it provides the added benefit of a profile wash, which starts with warm water and gradually heats it to around 155 degrees. Every type of stain gets its optimal water temp at some point during the wash cycle.

LCB is a lifelong habit for me with kitchen and personal whites. I use only 1/8 to 1/4 cup in the front-loader. I'll add it to loads of bath linens or bed linens (also all white) on occasion. It's probably not necessary with today's enzyme-powered detergents...but old habits die hard.

Tide, Wisk, and Kirkland Ultra Clean pods also do a great job in warm water and shorter cycles with less challenging loads.

The Sanitize cycle is 96 minutes long; 107 if you choose the extra rinse (which I do if liquid chlorine bleach is added). What's funny is that is the length of most Normal cycles on class of 2014 front-loaders. The Normal cycle on mine is 36-44 minutes, depending on which soil level you choose.

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"Is Charlie's your daily driver laundry product? How does it do with heavily-soiled or stained loads?"

It's our daily driver for lightly soiled laundry. Marketing claims notwithstanding, we've never found a natural detergent with the same cleaning power as petrochemical products+enzymes. So for whites/stains/heavy soil we stick to unscented Tide (+ LCB if necessary), but add a scoop of Charlie's for water softening and residual scent, which as mentioned is fantastic. If using LCB we usually do a separate warm first rinse with the Charlie's, as it's very good at removing bleach and optical brightener residue.

As for warm vs. cold rinse, not only these natural products but all detergents rinse much more effectively with warm water. Again regardless of marketing claims.
 
Dizolve laundry strips

Anyone here heard of this product?

http://mydizolve.com

Ingredients:

http://mydizolve.com/ingredients/

I do like the super minimal packaging, which seems very eco-friendly and takes up extremely little space. And the price seems pretty reasonable. My only concern is that the strips might not dissolve completely, despite their claims. Guess I'll have to just try it one of these days. :)

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In theory one could do laundry with nothing more than a source of alkalinity (washing soda, Borax, phosphates, etc..) and soap.

Modern petro-chemical based laundry detergent was invented during WWII to deal with a shortage of fats and oils brought about by the war. It also happens that such surfactants are streets ahead of pure soap on many levels that housewives and anyone else doing laundry soon abandoned that stuff in droves. Soap has other disadvantages in that it creates froth, and that is something you don't want or really need in washing machines. This is most true of H-Axis machines.

When one examines these "natural" laundry detergents one sees two main camps; soap based or sodium lauryl sulfate (or similar surfactants) types.

SLS or other man made surfactant detergents are good for removing oils and fats (think products used for washing one's hair and body) but in many cases lake the power to deal with very heavy soil or stains. To get round this usually enzymes and oxygen bleach are added.
 

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