Would anyone happen to know the age and make of this dishwasher?
Old dishwasher, can anyone identify?
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While I can't identify the exact brand it is a WCI branded D&M from the mid to late 80's. It could be Caloric, Tappan, Kelvinator, Gibson, etc.
Judging by the number of pushbuttons it was probably at or near TOL.
While I can't identify the exact brand it is a WCI branded D&M from the mid to late 80's. It could be Caloric, Tappan, Kelvinator, Gibson, etc.
Judging by the number of pushbuttons it was probably at or near TOL.
I had a Magic Chef DW that was similar.
mayken4now
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my waiver would have been hotpoint
That faceplate
reminds me a lot of a D&M made Kenmore we had in a house when I was in grad. school.
Had a really hot wash and final rinse, if we remembered the rinse aid, it actually cleaned well.
If we forgot, well, D&M stands for 'Dirty & Mess' after all.
reminds me a lot of a D&M made Kenmore we had in a house when I was in grad. school.
Had a really hot wash and final rinse, if we remembered the rinse aid, it actually cleaned well.
If we forgot, well, D&M stands for 'Dirty & Mess' after all.
Its A Magic Chef By D&M
Early 80s, it also has a MC ref by Admiral and A REAL MC range actually built by MC, today all three of these appliances have a combined value of around $27, LOL
Early 80s, it also has a MC ref by Admiral and A REAL MC range actually built by MC, today all three of these appliances have a combined value of around $27, LOL
Thanks!
What was the typical life expectancy and water usage of such a machine? This has no filter, right?
What was the typical life expectancy and water usage of such a machine? This has no filter, right?
delaneymeegan
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This is D&M built
and could be Modern Maid from the late 70s, early 80s
John L.- Your wrong Mr. I'm almost certain I could get at least <span style="font-size: 18pt;">$50</span> for that trio. ....and if one sold just the stove and frig as a pair , one could get even more. lol.
Steven- I fear your waiver has lead you astray.
"Chetlaham"- (with the FULLY filled out profile)- depending on how many (1970s) meat bones, cigarette butts, portions of childrens toys, broken glassware pieces, and general kitchen garbage went into the sump- 6 months to 7 years.
water useage- If I remember right from reading the schematics: 12 to 15 gallons depending on which cycle and how many rinses.
and could be Modern Maid from the late 70s, early 80s
John L.- Your wrong Mr. I'm almost certain I could get at least <span style="font-size: 18pt;">$50</span> for that trio. ....and if one sold just the stove and frig as a pair , one could get even more. lol.
Steven- I fear your waiver has lead you astray.
"Chetlaham"- (with the FULLY filled out profile)- depending on how many (1970s) meat bones, cigarette butts, portions of childrens toys, broken glassware pieces, and general kitchen garbage went into the sump- 6 months to 7 years.
water useage- If I remember right from reading the schematics: 12 to 15 gallons depending on which cycle and how many rinses.
Magic Chef Kitchen Appliances
It is a Magic Chef DW, when I was saying that the three appliances were worth about $27 I was thing of scrap value, neither the ref or DW has any useful value at this point other than scrap, The range could actually have some functional value if it has electric ignition, but if it is a constant burning pilot model we send them straight to the scrap yard as they are just to wasteful and dangerous to sell at this point in time.
It is a Magic Chef DW, when I was saying that the three appliances were worth about $27 I was thing of scrap value, neither the ref or DW has any useful value at this point other than scrap, The range could actually have some functional value if it has electric ignition, but if it is a constant burning pilot model we send them straight to the scrap yard as they are just to wasteful and dangerous to sell at this point in time.
We had a Tappan that looked just like that same color and everything but, I was real young.It had a full size steel arm under both rack's.
Tappan,Modern Maid and Kenmore's were basically the same. It washed O.K. and lasted a long time we gave it to a relative and ran for her for years but, they washed the dishes before washing the dishes like most people..
Tappan,Modern Maid and Kenmore's were basically the same. It washed O.K. and lasted a long time we gave it to a relative and ran for her for years but, they washed the dishes before washing the dishes like most people..
I hated those fridges, you would spend half a day stripping it down to get to that stupid broken glass defrost heater mounted under the evaporator. Drip pan always missing, kick plate broke on the first pull. What a turd.
I must have a lot of dishwashers that look like that one in my many old kitchen remodeling books, in addition to the myriad Kitchen Aids in nearly every model & from a variety of decades, there...
One old friend of mine had an Almond top freezer Admiral fridge like that one--and the last of the original appliances left in that house, long after the parents had passed...
(Avocado Tappan Fridge & Stove preceded that & the Tappan Stove w/ a microwave, similar to my mom's but a smooth top & last of the Avocados, Avocado radio-dial Kenmores, replaced by an Almond set and a couple dishwashers, ranging from a no-color Hotpoint top-loader to a white Whirlpool front loader, both short-lived & the latter more-quickly discarded, and an Avocado Whirlpool trash compactor, too...)
-- Dave
One old friend of mine had an Almond top freezer Admiral fridge like that one--and the last of the original appliances left in that house, long after the parents had passed...
(Avocado Tappan Fridge & Stove preceded that & the Tappan Stove w/ a microwave, similar to my mom's but a smooth top & last of the Avocados, Avocado radio-dial Kenmores, replaced by an Almond set and a couple dishwashers, ranging from a no-color Hotpoint top-loader to a white Whirlpool front loader, both short-lived & the latter more-quickly discarded, and an Avocado Whirlpool trash compactor, too...)
-- Dave
1980 Ephemera come to life. Eek. The dishwasher would be fun for a while, but the rest of the kitchen would be reason enough to move on to the next listing. Butcher block laminate, oak trimmed laminate cabinets and Tragic Chef appliances, a literal blank space where there should be a kitchen.
http://www.automatice.org/cgi-bin/index.cgi?showdoc~1272~Magic Chef~
http://www.automatice.org/cgi-bin/index.cgi?showdoc~1272~Magic Chef~
ilovewindex
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What would be really amazing
Is if it had the Magic Chef washer, dryer, trash compactor, heating system and freezer
Is if it had the Magic Chef washer, dryer, trash compactor, heating system and freezer
Yeah, the refrigerators could be a pain to repair, but I always found them to be great sellers on the used market. Change the handles, and it goes from cheap Montgomery Wards, to top notch Admiral in an instant.
Changing Names On A Refrigerator
Hi Kenny, I assume you are joking that Admiral name is a better name than Montgomery Wards, if you really want to up grade one of these crappy refs why not just put the Maytag or even the Jenn-Air handles on it, LOL.
Yes I will admit that we sold a few of these used back in the day, but the reality is that any ref that is clean and works is a good seller, few customers know the difference.
John L.
Hi Kenny, I assume you are joking that Admiral name is a better name than Montgomery Wards, if you really want to up grade one of these crappy refs why not just put the Maytag or even the Jenn-Air handles on it, LOL.
Yes I will admit that we sold a few of these used back in the day, but the reality is that any ref that is clean and works is a good seller, few customers know the difference.
John L.
In my 'hood, the Admirals always sold better than the Wards. Landlords thought they were getting something 'special'.
My brother's burnout friends like Magic Chef....
Because they would take appliances out for target practice and try to shoot the little tragic chef.
Because they would take appliances out for target practice and try to shoot the little tragic chef.
Magic Chef
Is quite possibly the only 'captive' Chinese brand to have improved (a lot) in quality this century over last century.
Their microwaves, ice-makers, etc. are on a par with the stuff WhirlAidAMANANAirTag shits out and their 'major' appliances are, sadly, now, too.
I guess that pretty much sums it up - they've now risen to the lousy level everybody else in the industry has fallen to.
Is quite possibly the only 'captive' Chinese brand to have improved (a lot) in quality this century over last century.
Their microwaves, ice-makers, etc. are on a par with the stuff WhirlAidAMANANAirTag shits out and their 'major' appliances are, sadly, now, too.
I guess that pretty much sums it up - they've now risen to the lousy level everybody else in the industry has fallen to.
One trick I learned with these units is that a metal paint tray acts as a perfect replacement to the always missing drain pan.
I too admit to selling quite a few of these units.
I too admit to selling quite a few of these units.
Metal paint tray, sometimes I would take aluminum flashing, and build a defrost pan. Seal the corners, good to go!
How long will the DW last?
How much water will it use. Well, it will last until it rusts out and floods the kitchen and/or starts a fire. 3-5 years with normal use. As to how much water it uses that depends on if you catch the failure soon and if the Fire Department is involved. In other words AVOID IT!
WK78
To be fair We had A Hotpoint nearly burn us down several years ago. It got stuck in the main wash heating phase. When I temped the water in a overturned cup the thermometer read 96C. There was partially melted Ziploc ware in the top rack. That POS got given to a scrapper very soon and was replaced with a Whirlpool. Thank God I woke up and heard the pile of shit still running or I'd be a Chef Flambe.
WK78
How much water will it use. Well, it will last until it rusts out and floods the kitchen and/or starts a fire. 3-5 years with normal use. As to how much water it uses that depends on if you catch the failure soon and if the Fire Department is involved. In other words AVOID IT!
WK78
To be fair We had A Hotpoint nearly burn us down several years ago. It got stuck in the main wash heating phase. When I temped the water in a overturned cup the thermometer read 96C. There was partially melted Ziploc ware in the top rack. That POS got given to a scrapper very soon and was replaced with a Whirlpool. Thank God I woke up and heard the pile of shit still running or I'd be a Chef Flambe.
WK78
DaveAMKrayoGuy's Magic Chef Mem'ries!
My grandma had a Magic Chef set in Almond as in a small fridge & fairly BOL electric stove (replacing the grand Jumbo Sized Avocado Kelvinator fridge & the "clock only" replacing the Avocado Kelvinator range's (the latter put in the basement, for potential auxiliary cooking that never materialized) Needle & Dial Extravaganza!)...
There was a better M-C gas range, across the street in Harvest Gold, featuring a clock w/ an hour minute-timber & a Vertical Timed Bake that just shut the oven off...
-- Dave
My grandma had a Magic Chef set in Almond as in a small fridge & fairly BOL electric stove (replacing the grand Jumbo Sized Avocado Kelvinator fridge & the "clock only" replacing the Avocado Kelvinator range's (the latter put in the basement, for potential auxiliary cooking that never materialized) Needle & Dial Extravaganza!)...
There was a better M-C gas range, across the street in Harvest Gold, featuring a clock w/ an hour minute-timber & a Vertical Timed Bake that just shut the oven off...
-- Dave
I want to say thanks everyone for identifying this for me. I would have never gotten it. My best guess was WCI Kenmore, so I was off a bit. By change did this machine heat the water or pause to heat it?
it reminds me
1985 caloric dishwasher my mother had before upgrading it to a 1991 kitchenaid. The caloric was total garbage didnt clean anything from day one. The 1991 kitchenaid was replace in 2000 with a wirlpool kitchenaid which is still going strong 16 years later.
1985 caloric dishwasher my mother had before upgrading it to a 1991 kitchenaid. The caloric was total garbage didnt clean anything from day one. The 1991 kitchenaid was replace in 2000 with a wirlpool kitchenaid which is still going strong 16 years later.
The TV show STILL STANDING had a Magic Chef dishwasher (though never used) and a Magic Chef gas stove (never saw on, nor the Almond Whirlpool washer & dryer set in the background) both in Wheat along with a matching General Electric top-freezer fridge, (which seems to have been recycled in a lot of movie and TV) you see opened and closed, especially in the beginning/intro theme...
-- Dave
-- Dave
vacerator
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Dave, how many folks
ever notice or care about appliances on TV show sets? I thought the gold D/W on still standing was a Kenmore. I watched a clip on youtube, and I still do. Magic Chef's of then were slanted console White Westinghouses.
My other half knows I do, so asked me just out of curiosity what brand of stove Debra and Marie each have on everybody loves Raymond.
1950's Okeefe & Merit, and 1960's Kenmore.
ever notice or care about appliances on TV show sets? I thought the gold D/W on still standing was a Kenmore. I watched a clip on youtube, and I still do. Magic Chef's of then were slanted console White Westinghouses.
My other half knows I do, so asked me just out of curiosity what brand of stove Debra and Marie each have on everybody loves Raymond.
1950's Okeefe & Merit, and 1960's Kenmore.
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