Ordered/Bought new cooking equipment - Need some handy-man advice

Automatic Washer - The world's coolest Washing Machines, Dryers and Dishwashers

Help Support :

henene4

Well-known member
Platinum Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2013
Messages
4,324
Location
Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)
So, I ordered a new oven and bought a new cooktop yesterday.
I'll post on them soon after they have both been installed, but am hoping on getting more into cooking and bakeing again this winter.

Now, the new coooktop is really the show-off thing IMO, but I need some help with the handy man part.

My current cooktop had a cutout that is 560mm wide, 490mm deep and >55mm from the back of the worktop.
The new one requires 600mm width, 500mm depth and >50mm from the back.
The new one is also a considerable bit wider and deeper.

The current cutout I had made when I ordered the worktop, so the cooktop isn't perfectly centered.
The cabinets underneath are really cheap, so I don't worry about them too much.

My main anxiety is that the cabinet for the oven is 600mm wide.
So I'll have to make a cutout exactly the width of the cabinet.

I'll have to remove the DW anyway to put in the new appliances since IIRC I switched the position of the oven one cabinet to the right to make space for a DW and thus the connection box for the oven is behind the DW.

The height profile of my new cooktop means that 33mm each side are slim enough to be complety within the thickness of my worktop.

So my idea is to basicly take the cutout and stretch it 5mm towards front and back no matter what as long as the distance from the back is what it's supposed to be.

The width is what I am somewhat concerned about.

The current cooktop is off center by about 5mm and I don't notice that, really.

And I now have the choice to either center the cooktop or go the easy route.
Centering though means I have to pull out the oven cabinet or otherwise risk ruining it.

If I go the easy route I'd place the new cutout as far to the right as possible without infringing on the right sidewall of the cabinet.
Then I'd overshoot into the DW side by the thickness of the sidewall of the cabinet, which is about 4mm.
So it would be just as off center as it is now.
That would mean I'd have to cut 2 slits into the left cabinet wall though. Since it isn*t fixed to anything that might get tricky with a jigsaw.

The second option would mean I'd have to remove the DW, then unscrew the oven cabinet from the one to the right.
Then I could center the cutout over the oven by just measuring 600mm from the right cabinet to the left.
That would mean though I'd loose 2cm or so from the right hand side sliver of worktop where the toaster and kettle stand.
Not much, but noticeable.
But it would be centered.

I don't think I could pull off the cut on the right hand side without removing the cabinet if I would go with the centered solution.
Though I am almost leaning towards it - if I'm at it, do it right attitude.

Otherwise I'll go the beginners route of doing the cuts. I'm good with electronics and such, but not the most handy person in the DIY department...

Drill corners to get the saw in.
Measure thrice, drill and cut once, use a straight edge to draw my lines, line the lines with tape so I don't scratch the surface and have an easy guide on where to cut.

Any comments or insights from someone more gifted in that regard?

Any help appreciated!
 
Pictures

Here the pictures of the current situation.

Unless you look at the ventilation gap, you really can't notice the cooktop is off-center.

I'll only be in this flat for another year or so and then I'll move, most likely leaving the kitchen behind for the next tenant anyway (without the aplliances of course).
So no biggy if it isn't a horrible fit.

henene4-2021082209015000038_1.jpg

henene4-2021082209015000038_2.jpg
 
Looks centered to me.

 

If it were my kitchen, I wouldn't sorry so much about everything being centered as I would about the integrity of the cabinetry. After all, it's not unusual to have a cooktop in one spot in the kitchen, and the oven in another location. That's how my kitchen is set up, and it bothers me not in the least. It's not as if the two are joined at the hip.

 

And you might get a better response here if you were to put the dimensions in inches rather than metric. We Americans mostly don't think in metric.

 
 
Hi John,

That sort of wiring approach is the norm in the 230v 50hz world and nothing spontaneously combusts. Outlets are just mounted in the plasterboard, plastic sheathed cabled is run in the walls. Its been that way since the PVC coated cable came in during the 50s and 60's. The only real change is that the cable rating has gone from 60degC to 90DegC.

Our old Kitchen had the cooktop and walloven on a single 32amp circuit. The new kitchen has the 12kw cooktop on a 32amp circuit and the two wallovens are on twin 20amp circuits. As per below, we're definitely over fused for the ovens and the Cooktop is just right. All circuits now need ELCBs/GFI's and Arc Fault detection isnt a thing here.

The Wiring rules for permanently connected appliances in AU are roughly as follows:

Up to 5000w needs 16Amps
between 5000w and 8000w needs 20 Amps
between 8000w and 10000w needs 25 Amps
between 10000w and 13000w needs 32 Amps
Greater than 13000w needs 40amps
 
I was actually amazed seeing metal being used in the US. We had metal pipes for electricity in the past, but that was forbidden because metal is conductive. Plastic is used here. It's heat resistant to a certain degree. It will not burn, only melt when reaching higher temperatures. But then again, systems are so safe that they don't heat up.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top