Phillips Electra "Spin Drain" 1980`s Washing Machine

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That's a clean outer drum!

Very cool, Mike, thanks for the video. This is one that has to be seen to be understood. I had a small combo that Steve B gave me that did a spin-drain after the pre-wash cycle. It was quite fun but it had a sensor to stop the machine if the load on the motor was too great.
 
Mike

The later models had a different start of the spin cycle. Here's a video of a later model. It starts spinning with a full drum but keeps spinning at that lower speed for a while. Only later, when the drum is empty, it speeds up. There is definitely a difference. The newer ones arer easily recognised, they have the possibility to do a spin only. The older models always have to do a rinse before they can spin.

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Paul

I actually don't know about the frontloaders, but my toploader is ver good at balancing. The weight of the toploader is only 59 kgs but I guess the water helps to distribute the laundry evenly. The toploader also has three feet, one at the front and two at the back. Never a problem with getting all feet evenly on the floor. I don't know how many feet the frontloaders have, but I assume they have four.
 
SQ Front Loaders

At local laundromat do a similar thing, but then again they can because there isn't a pump to worry about clogging with too much water too fast.

Not sure if this falls under owner control programming, but the washer will do one or more "tumble one way" rinses, though this happens after a spin while the machine is filling for a rinse. After a period of time the drain valve simply closes and the machine will start filling for the rinse.
 
Love that washer Mike ...800 rpm's is that in the category of spin class D and do you have the new spin classes spec sheet like the 2000 rpm models i left of years ago with 1600 rpm's with a A class rating ?
Just like to keep up with moisture levels and spin speeds thanks.

Darren k.
 
Spin Speeds

Hi Mike.

Cant wait for you to repair the Servis MK72. Memories eh. Does anyone think that fast spin machines tend to be more unrealiable.

Going back in time, in the 1970,s a lot of machines were about 800rpm, or even slower. These slower spin machines seemed to last longer. I remember reading in Which Magazine saying that faster spin machines, 1000rpm, could be more unrealable.

I know the fast spin issue would not effect Miele. My Mums Miele is about 12 years old, 1200rpm, she washer nearly everday, and never broken down.

Regards

Paul
 
Spin drain

Yes they are great to watch, our Philips AWB098 is in regular use. In the early stages when still full of water the whole front panel of unit flexes with the drum movement. The only down side to these machines is the noise at full RPM, the little Polymotor really screams at full belt compared to modern machines. It would not be a popular machine if you had close neighbours !
 
Phillips

Hi Greg, yes you do need to view it to understand what drama it gets up to!!! what was the brand of combo??

Thanks Louis for the vids, I think they did a number of spinning & draining options, hyaving watched the above vid, I remember my toploader did the drain like the electra but held at 800 then went to 1100rpm,

Hi Laundress, some of those dump valve commercials really empty like a wave, those Dexters look fun

Darren, yes moisture level content - well not quite zero yet..LOl

Gorenje, MaytagAsko 2,000rpm
Miele & AEG 1800rpm
Zug 1600rpm - Our best sellers tend to be 1400rpm machines

Paul, yes the older with metal tubs did appear last longer, but the newer machines have the bearings either fused or precision fitted so less wear & tear...but they just need to be substantial bearings to last..

Oh AntonRob..dont tease us!!!! get the pics up, those AWB098 series where a very good seller for the independant retailers and the Co-op as well, I sold many at Agri-Electics, and earned myself lots of "Points make Prizes" from the Phillips promotions catalogues.

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I remember that one, Mike!

I took a couple of pics of this machine doing it's magic at our last gathering...I thought I had video of it as well, but I can't find the files anywhere. Perhaps I was just transfixed by the V-Zug!!

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Chrome & Glass & Liquid water demons

Fabulous, simply fabulous.

You guys will make a front loader out of me yet.

Spectacular.
 
Still working hard after all these years.

Works better than the day it was bought in 84, the soap dispenser used to leak a little back then ! Brill machine, pity Philips dont build them anymore, our UK built Philips colour telly also worked for many years. They proudly stuck a built in Great Britain Union Jack label on there hardware.

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Super Super Super....

Variatronic!

Saved a piccy of your machine to my computer last time round Antonrob.

Rest assured that this new picture will be following the first!
An absolutely superb machine and congratulations on it being in such great condition.

Its always a pleasure to see machines that are classics and so obviously respected by their owners.

Thanks for posting the piccy of your AWB098.

Cheers
Paul
p.s would it be spin draining in that picture?
 
Antonrob.....

That's a lovely machine. I remember a friends Mother having a more basic version (with just an economy button & spin speed selector).

It also lasted well considering how much use it got, but was quite badly rusted under the powder drawer & had a non-matching chrome door handle by the time it was replaced. Certainly not in the immaculate condition of Antonrob's example.

The spin drain always facinated me. I thought there was something wrong with it when i first saw it as the whole front panel used to move when it begun spinning. Though as it continued to spin drain for years after i first saw it, i figured it was normal, as i now know it is!

Brilliant machines though, and well done on keeping yours in such a great condition.

Liam.
 
The couple that lives behind my mum still has her Super Variatronic washer and White Knight dryer from the same year. They really don't make em like that anymore.
 
Philips repair history

Had to put a new motor in about 1990 as a magnet collapsed onto the armature. These motors run hot when spinning, 12V at 5 Amp when washing, and about 200V at 1 Amp when spinning.

Replaced drum bearings and shaft seal in June 2009, fitted good quality GKN bearings. The original bearings were actually ok, they did not rumble, just a little tarnished, it was the seal that was worn.

I could do with an old donor machine to futureproof this old girl, have placed wanted on freecycle and preloved sites etc but no luck yet, heres hoping ! Parts aint easy to come bye anymore in this throw away society.
 
eek eek eek oo oo oo ah ah ah--EGADS, an alien

Mikey, I did not want to laugh that hard this morning.

At Minute 2:20, there is a wire-headed, bug-eyed alien, looking very like the ones in the hilraious comedy, "Mars Attacks" where the ugly, ultra-authoritarian creatures go about ranting in priceless caricature.

Great flick as usual. Loved the dilution cooldown--enough water at last. Enlightening to see all the mechanicals and electrics displayed during operation. Those Hoover "engines" at full throttle--WOW. Nominated for Washer Oscars 2010. Thanks for enviable state-of-the-art graphics. Shut down that wash shop and move to Hollywood. ;'D
 
I apologize to anyone who wasted time looking for the alien

I posted reply #52 in the wrong thread. Have no idea how I did it. Give me the gas pipe. PLEASE! The alien lives in Mike's other thread from April 10, "Electra..." starting at 2 minutes and 20 seconds in his unique video.
 

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