Please come out, Mr Spider...

[guit4eva]

Hey guys,

I recently got given a Defy Automaid (model: DA455), which I am now trying to replace the bearings. I'm trying to disconnect the spider from the drum, but two hours later I've concluded that I need help!! I've taken out all the bolts, but no amount of tugging will get it out! Is there something I'm missing?? Below are pics of the operation.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!!

Thanks!!

 

[richnz]

Don't tug!

Try tapping




Watch from 3:29

 

[guit4eva]

What is that chap doing...?

I don't understand what he's doing in the vid? Why is he screwing the bolt back in and then hitting it with a hammer? I'm so confused...

 

[launderess]

If that kid ever moves to the USA he could make a mint! *LOL*

 

[combo52]

That Young Could Make A Mint, LOL

Yes and I like how fast he works. You can see he is working at a shop that repairs lots of washers and certainly has done many before, however he should be using proper tools for installing the new bearings and seal and he should be wearing safety glasses when pounding things in and out.

 

Pretty cool though. In answer to the posters question you need to get the drum shaft out of the bearings to continue to disassemble the washer and replace the bearings and water seal. The guy in the video put the pulley bolt back in place and pounded on it a LITTLE to help get a slightly stuck shaft to budge, putting the bolt in place can protect the end of the shaft from damage.

 

Unfortunately your washer looks to be in a little worse shape [ much more corroded ] and you should be getting out the penetrating oil and may need a real wheel puller to get you machine apart, Good Luck.

 

John L.

 

[launderess]

Unless am mistaken

That "shop" is his private space/studio/workshop.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4jygPSzD_Y

 

[foraloysius]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think he is one of the German collectors and that is his collection, not a shop. Many of them are too old to be interesting to sell and most of them are different. In an appliance shop you would see newer and more the same machines. He did indeed a great job on that Miele.

 

[foraloysius]

BTW, here is a tour around his collection.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Bearings..

They are indeed the boys from Germany and have repaired more "Euro toy weshers" than probably all of us here!! ha ha...

As John says you need to put the bolt back on and hit this bolt with a flat piece of wood and wooden mallet to avoid damaging the nut, this will loosen the drum shaft through the cast bearing carrier and aid seperation.

Here is a Hotpoint 1826 washing machine made by Zanussi which looks similar set-up to yours. You can see the bearings being replaced, hope the pics help. Once the bearings are removed and the carrier cleaned, heat up the carrier and cool down in the freezer the new bearings, this will aid the new fitting!!

Click the link for bearing change pics!![this post was last edited: 7/27/2015-11:36]

http://https//www.flickr.com/photos/chestermikeuk/sets/72157654092975554

 

[launderess]

What one does find amazing

Is that Miele North America makes a huge deal about doing anything more than minor repairs onsite. Meanwhile you have persons who are basically anything from DIYers to hobbyists doing the sort of projects Miele swears they must haul a washing machine back to New Jersey. Things like bearing replacement, swapping out shock absorbers, and so forth. Suppose now that many Miele units have side opening panels things might be different for say shocks at least.

Have watched Europeans take apart a Miele washer in a space no bigger than their sitting or dining room, this includes pulling out the drum and putting it back when all is done.

OTOH suppose taking a washing machine apart in one's own home or private shop space where one can leave things overnight or for days is something a repairman cannot do.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Immer Besser

Dont forget the Miele word is a philosophy, a brand so prestigeous they DONT want or expect anyone but their dedicated trained high ranking personell to touch their appliances with anything else but gold gloves....Should they ever need it!!

And they arnt happy that anybody but a big banker or aspiring housewife with help should grace any of their models....
let alone see it in situ with its skirt off!!

One does have standards to aspire to!!

 

[launderess]

Wie ist es möglich?

"Nothing ist vong wit der Waschmaschine, Waschtrockner, etc..., *YOU* do not know how to use it properly."

Several telephone calls to customer service along with one or perhaps more in person service calls reveals the appliance is indeed doing what one said. Miele never will come out and say they were wrong mind, but hopefully will fix whatever is wrong. Should the problem occur again then the whole rigmarole begins a new.

 

[glomain]

gear puller

could you not use a gear puller like you would removing a timing chain gear on your truck. they don't cost much & can be used for many things that need removed from a shaft.

 

[tolivac]

Looks like the video was speeded up to save veiwing time.when the tech was installing what appear to be bearings and other parts in the spider-instead of pounding them in with a hammer-use an arbor press with the proper size "pushers" to prevent damaging the bearings.Most shops-including the one here at work have such presses.They are the best means for removing and installing bearings on shafts or inside of parts.An old tech taught me NEVER pound on bearings-this could damage them and cause them to fail prematurely.I have used the arbor press here at work for replacing bearings in vacuum cleaner motors.And of course used it for replacing bearings in equipment motors and other components.