You could get away with using Tide in the solid tub GE because the suds just floated over the tub rim and into the sump. During the drain, there was a pause after the water had been spun out of the tub to allow the suds to dissipate a bit. When CU first tested the new V12 GE, they showed a picture of the oversudsing that resulted from using a high sudsing detergent and warned that only low or controlled sudsing detergents be used in the newly redesigned machine.