I noticed that these are offered with optional sudsavers, but the control panels do not have any selector to chose whether to drain or save suds. Am I missing something or was this from one of the periods when the sudsaver selector switch was not offered or would there be a switch on the sudsaver model?
POD 8-16-2020 LK with Enzyme Pre-Soak Auto Advance
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Two drain hoses. Wash water on a sud-saver model always drains through the first hose into the storage tub (remove the tub stopper if not wanting to save). Rinse water drains through the second hose to the standpipe. Except wash water on Perm Press is always drained through the second hose (not saved) due to the cool down dilution.
Kenmore/WP suds
I don't have this exact model, but I have a 1974 Kenmore suds and a 1959 Whirlpool suds machine. Both send the regular cycle wash water into one drain hose, and automatically send drain water out another hose, you cannot choose. You simply plug the wash drain if you want to save suds, or leave it to drain out of the tub. For pulling suds back in, it's right on the timer dial on both my machines, no buttons at all. Blow up the POD and you'll see that right at the top of the dial, next to OFF, it says suds. This would suck suds back in.
My 1972 Maytag and 1977 GE Filter Flo work differently, you decide on a Maytag button or GE switch if you want to save the water instead of the Kenmore/WP "plug the tub or not" way to decide with them.
I almost never use Perm-Press cycles, I can't say how any of the machines do or don't save that water.
Clothes I wear to my office don't get very dirty, nor do bath towels or sheets, so I do a lot of suds saving with them. Dog bedding and throw rugs and babies clothes are a different story, DON'T SAVE THE WATER. yuck.
I don't have this exact model, but I have a 1974 Kenmore suds and a 1959 Whirlpool suds machine. Both send the regular cycle wash water into one drain hose, and automatically send drain water out another hose, you cannot choose. You simply plug the wash drain if you want to save suds, or leave it to drain out of the tub. For pulling suds back in, it's right on the timer dial on both my machines, no buttons at all. Blow up the POD and you'll see that right at the top of the dial, next to OFF, it says suds. This would suck suds back in.
My 1972 Maytag and 1977 GE Filter Flo work differently, you decide on a Maytag button or GE switch if you want to save the water instead of the Kenmore/WP "plug the tub or not" way to decide with them.
I almost never use Perm-Press cycles, I can't say how any of the machines do or don't save that water.
Clothes I wear to my office don't get very dirty, nor do bath towels or sheets, so I do a lot of suds saving with them. Dog bedding and throw rugs and babies clothes are a different story, DON'T SAVE THE WATER. yuck.
My new ‘63 Whirlpool doesn’t have a suds saver on it at all but there is a provision for another drain hose to be used for a suds saver but mine isn’t a suds saver model at all. If I had a machines with a suds saver I would only use it for lightly soiled laundry or small loads of laundry that aren’t dirty but other than that I wouldn’t want to save the dirty wash water for anything else.
chaskelljr2
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The 1978 Kenmore 70 that I grew up with also was a Sud-Saver Model.
When I used the machine (whether it was doing my own laundry in that machine or doing the family’s laundry when my mom wasn’t doing it), when I was washing lightly soiled clothes, I used the S-S feature to conserve water and detergent, and when the machine was finished drawing the water back into the tub, all it did was add fresh water to the tub to bring the water level back up to where it is supposed to be, and all I did was either add JUST a little bit more detergent when it started agitating or didn’t add any more at all, depending what my judgement call was.
But to draw the water back into the machine, all I had to do was advance the timer to “Suds”. By default, if I am doing a normal load of clothes, I would just leave it alone, it will advance to the wash cycle on its own. Now if I want to drain the water out of the machine, then I would stop the machine and advance the timer to the Permanent Press cycle, and the water will go down the drainpipe.
On the 1969 Lady Kenmore that’s in today’s POD, same thing, just advance the timer to “Suds”.
But didn’t the earlier push-button WP’s/LK’s have a push-button that also enabled this very feature? I know I saw that on the 1965 Lady Kenmore.
—Charles—
When I used the machine (whether it was doing my own laundry in that machine or doing the family’s laundry when my mom wasn’t doing it), when I was washing lightly soiled clothes, I used the S-S feature to conserve water and detergent, and when the machine was finished drawing the water back into the tub, all it did was add fresh water to the tub to bring the water level back up to where it is supposed to be, and all I did was either add JUST a little bit more detergent when it started agitating or didn’t add any more at all, depending what my judgement call was.
But to draw the water back into the machine, all I had to do was advance the timer to “Suds”. By default, if I am doing a normal load of clothes, I would just leave it alone, it will advance to the wash cycle on its own. Now if I want to drain the water out of the machine, then I would stop the machine and advance the timer to the Permanent Press cycle, and the water will go down the drainpipe.
On the 1969 Lady Kenmore that’s in today’s POD, same thing, just advance the timer to “Suds”.
But didn’t the earlier push-button WP’s/LK’s have a push-button that also enabled this very feature? I know I saw that on the 1965 Lady Kenmore.
—Charles—
The 1965 Lady Kenmore Suds button was to engage the suds return function by setting/locking the timer to that position.
The 1969 POD LK didn't devote a button to it, although one may need to press "Selective Dialing-Cancel" to prevent the timer from locking at some other position on the way to Suds.
Something else perhaps notable on the 1969 LK is the Delicate cycle (per the POD) provides up to 10 mins of wash time.
Edit to correct: I don't know what year is it.[this post was last edited: 8/16/2020-18:27]
That LK with the 10 minutes wash on Delicate, if memory serves me, I'v4e seen timer dials on LKs that also said Knit/Delicate. the 10 minutes gave 2 minutes of agitation, 2 minutes of soak, and then 6 minutes of agitation again.
KM and WP Washers With Suds savers
Out of the several hundred different WP top load washers that had a SS NONE ever had a switch to turn the feature on or off.
Out of the even larger number of KM TL washers WP built for them from 1947- 2005 you can count on one hand the few models that had an unnecessary switch to turn the feature on and off, the user simply did not leave the plug in the sink if they do not want to reuse the suds water.
John L.
Out of the several hundred different WP top load washers that had a SS NONE ever had a switch to turn the feature on or off.
Out of the even larger number of KM TL washers WP built for them from 1947- 2005 you can count on one hand the few models that had an unnecessary switch to turn the feature on and off, the user simply did not leave the plug in the sink if they do not want to reuse the suds water.
John L.
If it’s possible I would like to know every detail on each cycle, like the speed and temperature...
What is the button marked Custom Care?
— Dave
What is the button marked Custom Care?
— Dave
Custom Care overrides the programmed speeds, forcing Ex Low agitation on any cycle ... or it may reduce the speed by one notch such that Normal becomes Delicate and Delicate becomes Ex Low.
Custom Care knocks the speed down a notch, as you conjectured on the last half of your post.
Bob, interesting your info about KM and Knits. I was never clear on whether KM did anything different for Knits other than a longer wash time on Delicate vs. WP's completely separate Knits cycle with 1-stage cool down.
Glenn, Sears never did a cool-down on Knits. There was a time when they did have the LK pause for 2 minute interval between the beginning of Knits and Delicate. It may have specified that under the lid cycle chart. I just remember seeing that and always struck me as a nice extra. And it was the only difference between the Knit/Delicate on the Kenmore 800 I had at home vs. the LK.
