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Filled up for $2.14 today 87 octane unleaded. Anyone think prices will remain low until after the elections? Recalling February 2005, when gas rose to over $2 (for the first time ever) per gallon and increased to $4.09 by May of 2008, when the economic crash hit. Some think it's all manipulated and pre determined.
Mr. president 043 then told us we were addicted to oil, and GM was building vehicles nobody wanted. Well, in hindsight, those are what most drive today. Escalades, Yukons, Tahoes, Silverados, Sierra's, Ram's, Suburbans, etc. The GM full size SUV's are growing in wheelbase length for 2021 also.
Pay close attention, but please, don't only vote thinking of your wallets and taxes. We could end up with a bigger mess to clean up than already.
Keep in mind that every action has a reaction. As appealing as a corporate equalized v.a.t. profit tax sounds, such like that of France, Switzerland, etc., lower bottom lines can affect 401k's.
I'm all for newer better ideas, so long as they are not set in stone if they fail, or cause us average folks to suffer more.
 
On our trip home from Mayo Clinic I took note of gas prices on the way home.  It was $2.39 in Rochester & Zumbrota, MN.  In Red Wing, MN it was $2.13 & $2.24.  In WI the average price along our route was $2.32.  And just up the street from our house it's been at $2.29 for a few weeks now.  
 
Come to the Bay Area in California, and you will  be shocked at the gas prices.  The station on the corner of my street has gas priced today at $3.329 per gal for reg unleaded, and thats the cheapest its been for weeks, and the cheapest gas around.

 

Fortunately, since we are both now retired we have very little need to drive.  I last filled the car on 1-4-20, and have only driven 89 miles since then.  We walk to the store for anything that we need between my weekly shopping trips.  I now can go 2 months without needing to buy gas.  So I guess we are doing our part to fight climate change, and I don’t feel the least bit deprived.

 

Eddie
 
<span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #008000;">Like Ralph in the Bay Area, gas prices, when compared to many other areas, aren't cheap here either. Both of the vehicles I use, the F-150 and the Cadillac have V8's and the later uses pricey premium fuel. But being old, retired and living fairly close to the hospital (my home away from home) I really can't remember the last time I put gas in either one. I do feel badly for those who have jobs that take them all the way to the Inland Empire and even the Los Angeles area. What an ugly commute. </span>
 
Both My ICE cars....

.....require premium fuel.
My last fill up at Costco, I paid $3.40 per gallon.
In April 2019, I paid $4.36 per gallon.
There are a lot of added taxes on gasoline in California which make the price high.
We will never see gas below $3.00 per gallon here!
 
Bay Area Prices

Actually, a station or two here in town had regular below $3/gallon within the last few weeks.  I can't even remember when was the last time that happened.

 

Oddly, some of the lowest prices on gas I've found have been at Mobil stations, including one in pricey Los Gatos, where regular was $3.15/gallon last week.  The nearest Mobil to me is in a somewhat sketchy area has had it at $3.47 for a while, and that's the cash price.  Go figure.

 

I use oil company credit cards, so I'm always buying at name brand stations, usually Mobil or 76.  I don't use a Visa or MC at gas pumps due to the skimmers that can often land on pumps' card readers.   No thief is interested in a card that can only be used to buy gas.
 
At the WAWA in Beltsville, regular has been $2.18 for weeks but has just dropped to $2.17. On Thursdays, the Shell stations drop the price by 4 cents a gallon so they are close to the WAWA in price.  West of here in Montgomery County and in Washington, D.C., prices are easily 40 to 50 cents a gallon higher.
 
True about California,

I think your gasoline tax is higer. You have many more roads to maintain, even with much more mass transit than we have. Washington D.C. at least does have a subway, and isn't far from the Amtrak northeast corrdor for high speed rail to Philadelphia, New York, and Boston. Those areas as well as Atlanta, Chicago, etc. also have light rail, and give enough commuters a choice to not drive to work, and use their personal vehicles more for pleasure. Elaine Chao McConnel is current transportation secretary and will never approve a high speed rail project. In some ways, term limits for congress could be beneficial. Moderation is good, and seems to be more productive, as our new governor praised former governor Bill Milikin in "her" state of the state address last week for being moderate and working with both parties.
 
High Speed Rail

Fellow member George and I were just talking yesterday about the HSR debacle here in California.  We both agreed that the current "train to nowhere" plan is a huge and costly mistake.  Scaling the project back from SF-to-LA and building only the segment between the Bay Area and Fresno/Modesto would make much more sense, create huge demand, and thus provide the incentive to subsequently complete the line all the way to LA.  I would ride that train a lot to LA, if only it were completed within my lifetime.

 

Of course, they never ask us.
 
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