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<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Great Scans! </span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">I love the feature on the electronic model where you can increase the wash time. </span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Brent</span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">I love the feature on the electronic model where you can increase the wash time. </span>
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Brent</span>
Model 7013
My very first house came with a similar looking model, it didn't have the water miser button, but the other buttons and the same fat timer dial. This was the series of Kenmore dishwashers which got in trouble with the Federal Trade commission for false and misleading advertising. the machines were advertised as no pre-rinsing required, no real attention made for preparation. Reality couldn't be farther from the truth. The reason why I remember the FTC issue is because while I waws waiting on my house to be finished and to close on it, I heard on the news one Sunday about the FTC slap against Sears and it specifically only mentioned their current dishwahers. Two streets in my new subdivision had these machines. This is one of the two worst dishwashers I've ever owned. I'm not sure which is worse--this one or the Hotpoint PotWasher which was here when I bought my current house. It was a horrible disappointment because our two RotoRacks took all sorts of stuff from me when I could sneak it in without my mom home. I know you find this hard to believe Nate, but my BOL GE dishwasher so common in so many apartments was actually better than these. It got to the point that the only reason why I used the Pots & Pans cycle was to have an extra-high temperature main wash. When I moved into my next house March, 1985 that had the Tappan (GE PotScrubber), the difference was like night and day. That Tappan (GE) actually cleaned dirty, crusty, grimey meal preparation utensils.
My very first house came with a similar looking model, it didn't have the water miser button, but the other buttons and the same fat timer dial. This was the series of Kenmore dishwashers which got in trouble with the Federal Trade commission for false and misleading advertising. the machines were advertised as no pre-rinsing required, no real attention made for preparation. Reality couldn't be farther from the truth. The reason why I remember the FTC issue is because while I waws waiting on my house to be finished and to close on it, I heard on the news one Sunday about the FTC slap against Sears and it specifically only mentioned their current dishwahers. Two streets in my new subdivision had these machines. This is one of the two worst dishwashers I've ever owned. I'm not sure which is worse--this one or the Hotpoint PotWasher which was here when I bought my current house. It was a horrible disappointment because our two RotoRacks took all sorts of stuff from me when I could sneak it in without my mom home. I know you find this hard to believe Nate, but my BOL GE dishwasher so common in so many apartments was actually better than these. It got to the point that the only reason why I used the Pots & Pans cycle was to have an extra-high temperature main wash. When I moved into my next house March, 1985 that had the Tappan (GE PotScrubber), the difference was like night and day. That Tappan (GE) actually cleaned dirty, crusty, grimey meal preparation utensils.
1981 KM D&M DISHWASHER
My partner Michael bought a condo in NW Washington DC in 1981 and it had a new KM DW in it, it was without a dough the worst performing machine I ever had the displeasure to use. Almost nothing got clean or dry, I even turned the gas water heater to the max setting. I pulled it out and installed a WP SHU9900 Electronic control machine with the tilt out panel, that machine is still working today but in a different home. When I pulled out the D&M machine I sold it to a lady that owned a rental house figuring that it would be good enough for that purpose. Boy was that a big mistake, that machine broke down many times in the next 3 years. Thats way I will say to this day if I find even a new in the box D&M built dishwasher I will either throw it in the metal crusher or put it in the museum where it belongs but I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
My partner Michael bought a condo in NW Washington DC in 1981 and it had a new KM DW in it, it was without a dough the worst performing machine I ever had the displeasure to use. Almost nothing got clean or dry, I even turned the gas water heater to the max setting. I pulled it out and installed a WP SHU9900 Electronic control machine with the tilt out panel, that machine is still working today but in a different home. When I pulled out the D&M machine I sold it to a lady that owned a rental house figuring that it would be good enough for that purpose. Boy was that a big mistake, that machine broke down many times in the next 3 years. Thats way I will say to this day if I find even a new in the box D&M built dishwasher I will either throw it in the metal crusher or put it in the museum where it belongs but I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
John, I lived in that house for aboutt 4.5 years. I had started looking to replace the dishwasher because little black plastic bits were showing up in the bottom of the machine. Fortunately,I was out of there soon enough.
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One of the neighborladies had this electronic Sears Best Kenmore. She knew the repairman by his first name and had the policy and I think she liked having to fight with Sears to get it repaired all the time, especially the electronic controls. She bragged that "they must have put like 800 dollars in to the machine, more than I paid for it". All I could think is for that much money, why didn't you just buy a KitchenAid?
Meanwhile, we had like the "good" model and when you have these Kenmores you get used to leaving a dish in "for the next trip" if it doesn't come out clean the first time. What I could never get used to was the noise they make and the sharp edges they seemed to have. Most Kenmores did not seem to live long either.
Meanwhile, we had like the "good" model and when you have these Kenmores you get used to leaving a dish in "for the next trip" if it doesn't come out clean the first time. What I could never get used to was the noise they make and the sharp edges they seemed to have. Most Kenmores did not seem to live long either.
Sears 1980!
These machines were a turning point for sears d&m. This was the beginning series of the water miser cycle and instead of 6 water changes they went to 5 in a normal wash. The only thing I didnt like about this series was the fact they started to use the dish loops instead of the straight pins in the lower rack. I had friends that had the 7014 but their model had the sliding console to hide the buttons. They complained to sears about the lower rack loading and sears replaced the rack with the one with the straight pins. Othet than that they had no further problem with the unit and had it about 15 years before buying the last hobart KA suburba series. (still running). I loaded their machine many times and did not rinse and everything always came spotless. Another friend had the 7013 series for almost 30 years and let it go working (it did not have heavy use) mostly used when entertaining. They did not mind the dish loops. The only reason they got rid of the unit because the front was beaten up. I tried to explain that todays DW's are no great shakes. They didnt listen and bought a amana (whirlpool tall tub style) and they hate it because they complain the cycle time is much to long!
For about 1 1/2 years I lived in a apt with no DW and bought the 18" 79561 used for $100.00 and I loved it. Always cleaned well. When I moved in 85 the new apt had a GE builder model so I gave the portable to a friend and they had it up until 6 years ago when it crapped out.
From the above brouchure their is about 2 models I remember missing from this series. Thanks for posting.
Peter
These machines were a turning point for sears d&m. This was the beginning series of the water miser cycle and instead of 6 water changes they went to 5 in a normal wash. The only thing I didnt like about this series was the fact they started to use the dish loops instead of the straight pins in the lower rack. I had friends that had the 7014 but their model had the sliding console to hide the buttons. They complained to sears about the lower rack loading and sears replaced the rack with the one with the straight pins. Othet than that they had no further problem with the unit and had it about 15 years before buying the last hobart KA suburba series. (still running). I loaded their machine many times and did not rinse and everything always came spotless. Another friend had the 7013 series for almost 30 years and let it go working (it did not have heavy use) mostly used when entertaining. They did not mind the dish loops. The only reason they got rid of the unit because the front was beaten up. I tried to explain that todays DW's are no great shakes. They didnt listen and bought a amana (whirlpool tall tub style) and they hate it because they complain the cycle time is much to long!
For about 1 1/2 years I lived in a apt with no DW and bought the 18" 79561 used for $100.00 and I loved it. Always cleaned well. When I moved in 85 the new apt had a GE builder model so I gave the portable to a friend and they had it up until 6 years ago when it crapped out.
From the above brouchure their is about 2 models I remember missing from this series. Thanks for posting.
Peter
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18"
Wow, D&M or not, I really like that 18" style. I like an 18" dishwasher, I've never seen on that had that style front. If anyone has one they'd like to part with let me know!
-Tim
Wow, D&M or not, I really like that 18" style. I like an 18" dishwasher, I've never seen on that had that style front. If anyone has one they'd like to part with let me know!
-Tim
70061
We still have the 70061 at my grandparent's old house. It's almost rusted to death in the sump, but still plugging along. The only repair it's needed was a new drying fan, which Roger and I pilfered from a donor unit when I was still in Tucson. The old fan was getting squally when it ran.
In terms of dishwashers, I've used better, and I've used worse. The BOL GE from 1975 made handwashing seem viable, and could dirty load of clean dishes with no food present in the machine, so (*volley*) you can keep it, Bob ;-) Would I toss the KitchenAid for this? Hell to the no. But if stranded on a desert island and left only with a 1980 D&M, I'd get by. (If I had that GE, I'd be off doing dishes in the coral reef.)
This machine did fine with normal soil, but we never used the Water Miser button--just Power Miser, and with fan-forced dry and the bone-dry Yuma, Arizona air, it was a non-issue. The multi-level wash worked well, although chunks of food would frequently clog the wash-arm holes, making a tweezers a necessary part of any Kenmore owner's toolkit. The pressure of water emitted from the nozzles was incredible (thus requiring careful anchoring of items--and the sound of a plate banging away in the bottom rack with each sweep of the wash-arm was a constant irritation and frequent issue), and the machine could scour soil from any surface--the only problem was whether there were enough water changes to serially dilute and exhaust the particles down the drain before it reached the dry cycle. Greg and I once had a bet on throwing a whole pot of rice, or tray of potatoes au gratin, into a D&M--and letting it go through a heated dry--and it still makes me chuckle to this day ;-).
If you don't have a soil separator (and a good one) on your machine, it just doesn't work. You need a filter or a soil module to keep yiblets out of circulation. Pots and Pans was a viable cycle on these due to pure serial dilution; the Sani Wash/Rinse was a nice feature, too, but used indiscriminately, it served more to bake stuff on than scour it off.
We still have the 70061 at my grandparent's old house. It's almost rusted to death in the sump, but still plugging along. The only repair it's needed was a new drying fan, which Roger and I pilfered from a donor unit when I was still in Tucson. The old fan was getting squally when it ran.
In terms of dishwashers, I've used better, and I've used worse. The BOL GE from 1975 made handwashing seem viable, and could dirty load of clean dishes with no food present in the machine, so (*volley*) you can keep it, Bob ;-) Would I toss the KitchenAid for this? Hell to the no. But if stranded on a desert island and left only with a 1980 D&M, I'd get by. (If I had that GE, I'd be off doing dishes in the coral reef.)
This machine did fine with normal soil, but we never used the Water Miser button--just Power Miser, and with fan-forced dry and the bone-dry Yuma, Arizona air, it was a non-issue. The multi-level wash worked well, although chunks of food would frequently clog the wash-arm holes, making a tweezers a necessary part of any Kenmore owner's toolkit. The pressure of water emitted from the nozzles was incredible (thus requiring careful anchoring of items--and the sound of a plate banging away in the bottom rack with each sweep of the wash-arm was a constant irritation and frequent issue), and the machine could scour soil from any surface--the only problem was whether there were enough water changes to serially dilute and exhaust the particles down the drain before it reached the dry cycle. Greg and I once had a bet on throwing a whole pot of rice, or tray of potatoes au gratin, into a D&M--and letting it go through a heated dry--and it still makes me chuckle to this day ;-).
If you don't have a soil separator (and a good one) on your machine, it just doesn't work. You need a filter or a soil module to keep yiblets out of circulation. Pots and Pans was a viable cycle on these due to pure serial dilution; the Sani Wash/Rinse was a nice feature, too, but used indiscriminately, it served more to bake stuff on than scour it off.
Performance!
Nate that kind of sums it up for me. I've used better, and I've used worse. In terms of cleaning greasy soiled dishes they did just fine. But certainly not a whirlpool kitchenaid or TOL GE from that time. In terms of loading and convience I put these above the others except kitchenaid was better. I have always perfered towerless designs. In 1983 the people I knew who had the 7014 and another that had a GE 1200 did a comparison. The sears washed really well but the GE did out shine the sears, however for loading and convience the sears won hands down in comparison. To bad GE didnt continue with the potscrubber2! Goes to show their are positives and negatives to everything!
Nate that kind of sums it up for me. I've used better, and I've used worse. In terms of cleaning greasy soiled dishes they did just fine. But certainly not a whirlpool kitchenaid or TOL GE from that time. In terms of loading and convience I put these above the others except kitchenaid was better. I have always perfered towerless designs. In 1983 the people I knew who had the 7014 and another that had a GE 1200 did a comparison. The sears washed really well but the GE did out shine the sears, however for loading and convience the sears won hands down in comparison. To bad GE didnt continue with the potscrubber2! Goes to show their are positives and negatives to everything!
