Servis mk2.....some updates, and help needed...

[kenmoreguy89]

Hi All, so, the Servis finally had a timer, I just need to adapt the knob to the spline which is bigger....
So all I miss now it's the other 2 knobs, Mike is going to send me one...I hope I can find another one....
There is maybe a big problem though, since I had the timer working I could not wait to run some loads in it in these days, (I'd like to wait to have it "completed" before making a video to post here), well, tonight I was doing some laundry with it again, so transferred laundry in the spinner, ran the first spin after wash, all okay, so then I raised the lid to stop spinner and added water for soak filling and rinse spin, but got this bad surprise: trying to close the lid it didn't go down...I tried to push and lift the button but the lid just won't close, and spinner won't run of course, looks that the device got blocked, broken...who knows?
I removed the back panel and tried to see how that device looks like....I removed it's screws (screwed on the top) one of the which had a wire twisted on it, it should be a red/hot wire (black and yellow) and looks it gives current to the internal thing...it's really weird that device and honestly I have no idea of how it does work nor how to remove it in full, it does have cilinder inside that would go up and down and or back and forth...not sure...will take a pic tomorrow with daylight...someone knows what could be wrong with it? How to fix it?
Eventually how can I do to remove the top panel? I'm scared to do that though, because the boot in the spinner tub is very dry and could break very easily if I renmove it.... but them still available? That would be nice to replace it if posssible...
Thank you in advance!
Freddy

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Hi all, I have disassembled the top and removed the thing that holds the lids to check the internal mechanism, I could not fix it but at least now I can close the lid, I will  just jump the wires to make  spinner run, so it will run even with lid raised (I will just have to turn it off before opening), I made sure the mechanism keeps it closed during spin, heck it spins really fast!!!
Someone knows how many rpm? I have to make sure to do not let laundry too much in it or I will get alot of wrinkles!

Will post some pics.

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Here is the disassembled unlucky Servis........ shhh...can you hear it?:  "Fix me!" "Fix me!" LOL

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Lid mechanism:

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Lid switch:

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Re-assembling everything after  gluing tub seal and internal  lid seals with  transparent silicone......

Wow! What a job join the worktop back! It took 40 mins! Hope also the front panel will not require as much as the last time, I needed the help of my sister and we spent  30 mins before get it perfectly framed, those rubber strips kept slipping and falling all the time.

 

 

[chestermikeuk]

Wow,

Glad to see you like a challenge Freddy, the top is a real pain to get off and put back on, actually when you know what to do I`m told by the engineers its easy, but if you had seen me and the gang trying to get it off and then back on I was all ready for ditching it...LOl

With the top off check all the gaskets, these are what stops the water from spraying over the inside and shorting the electrics....those gaskets are non existant unless you have a donor machine so its crucial you keep it preserved, we used a spray silicone from a car parts place, spray on and rub it to re-supple the rubber parts, also the washer top gasket was starting to crack, if yours is the same rub some waterproof clear sealant onto it, then with the top back on it will seal well..

The spinner drum spins at 2,800rpm its very fast, is it smooth when running?, are the spin mounts good?, does it move around at all?

What was the original problem with the lid? was the open lid lever broken?

Glad to see you are getting stuck in, your postman should have the control knob with you shortly!!

Mike

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Hi Mike, nice to hear from you!
The top actually came off very easily, it was the reassembling it  back the pain, but I managed to at the end.
The spinner gasket was in good shape, at  first I thought it was in worse conditions but it was fine considering age, it is still elastic but seems  a little dry on the external surface..... so spray silicon would help? That is a useful advice thank you, what brand or type did you use?
Now top is already re-assembled but next time I'll remove it I will surely give a spray  of silocone to the spinner gasket, it should be fine for awhile  even without  anyway.
Even the tub  gasket was fine and soft, it was just detached from the tub on the left side so I put silicon to join it to the  tub again, I checked with a small mirror  and a portable  light bulb from the tub ( Could  not fit my head into due to  the shaft)  if the gasket joined the  top  surface for perfect sealing, and it looked so.

The spinner works enough smotthly, so it is almost 3000rpm, thanks for the info! The mounts looks fine, at least I believe so, I can bend   the drum  left and right  but looks hard like it should be....it produce some vibrations for the first seconds, but then runs smoothly unless  bad distribuited load occurs. Never heard it banging though.
The lid lever problem was that it got stuck mid-way, lid also was stuck mid-way and couldn't close or open totally.
I do not know what was the exact problem with it, I did not understand how that mechanism worked.

Thank you so much Mike for the knob, I'll let you know when it comes, now I miss just another one.

Thank you for the great help!

 

[keymatic]

Hi Freddy,
Hope you are well, and Happy New Year & all the best for 2013.
Looks like that Servis is being a challenge, hope you are getting there one way or another.
How did you get on with timer ? Did you manage to get it fixed ? I went down the garage yesterday and had a good rumage around. I think I have found a pump knob, but it hasn't got the chrome inset, also i think I have found a timer !! They were made by Smith's of Cricklewood London. I will confirm when I have had a better look.
Anyway catch you soon
Keith

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Thank you Keith! Same to you! Happy 2013 to all!
You're right guys, it's a challenge for me and had to be so since I pad good money to have it here! I cannot give it up nor I will in the

future! I want this machine up and running!
I finally found a timer that could fit the machine and it's original wash knob (with a modification om the knob hole) , even the timer time  pattern that should follow looks didn't change much! So 15 minutes will actually be 15 minutes of washing.

Yes even the broken timers I've here says they're made by Smiths Clocks Ltd.
That is nice you found a knob! Thank you ! No problem if it does not have th metal insert, I would detach mine to fit in it without bending it too much.
Thank you Keith!

I'm here trying to get that damn front panel back in place, it is about an hour that I'm trying but no success...... I guess that if I hadn't my aching ribs due to  my strong cough it would be easier, now they hurts so much I had to stop..... now I'm taking some rest, will have dinner and try again later, maybe a dish of pasta will give me some forces! LOL
Jokes a part! Servis are really built strongly and very good but I can't say practical sense was a skill of their engineers.

Will keep you posted.
Thank you!

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[buzywoman]

Very beautifull twin tub.

Do you have a year of made ?

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Hi all, everything assembled finally! After others 30 minutes of pains! The Servis is ready back  for a wash tonight.
Mike, Postman came today but didn't have the knob, just a package off an online purchase (Mexican Ariel Detergent), I asked for the knob and he said there should be another load of post for tomorrow so maybe will receive it then.
Thank you!

(Sorry for the messy background)

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Buzywoman: Mine is a 1964 model, it was told me so from the Miss/Lady? Who sold and shipped it to me, also removing the top I found a stamp on the bottom it was half deleted it stated something looking  like a date ending with "964" so all makes think that it is a 1964 model.
The Mike's green one with knobs in horizontal order, is a servis Mk1 and is earlier as machine, I guess 50s right?
Anyway I'm a newbie into these, others members surely  can give you  better  info about them if you wish.

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Damnit!!!!!!!!!

Bad luck is fòllowing me with this machine!
I was using it tonight to wash a few white things, well, letting alone the pilot light of the heater that just blowed and made the electric plant security switch shut off,  as expected, means it works thanks god,  I can replace the pilot light, that's not the problem.
I kept using machine with warm water (our central heater is under manteinance), at the time to spin the clothes for the second rinse spin I heard a loud "stang" and then a werid noise, I got there turned off the spinner and it just kept  turning forever, it stopped after two minutes! So I got a broken belt, right?
Are they available?

Where can I find one that fits the machine?
I've seen on ebay are available ones for Servis Mk111 and later models, would that belt fit the mk2?
At this time I think would be best replace even the pump belt, any suggestions?

Thank you!

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Ci scusiamo per l'interruzione.

 

[kenmoreguy89]

I should be crossed, cursed or something like that.....

Someone must be doing some kind of hodoo to me or my machine....
Really!
Well, okay,  lid switch, pilot light broken,  that's okay, spinner  belt broken that's okay either...it's an old machine it needs attentions I say, but hell the new timer no! no! no!
Today a friend of mine came in bringing a t shirt stained of mold (she forgot gym wet stuff in her bag)  and asked me how she says "Laundry man" to try  get it out as she washed it 2 times and didn't get out...I said no problem an hot wash with a good detergent will solve the problem.
So since I needed a good hot wash and our water heater is still producing warm water only I took the Servis for a boil wash, washed the t shirt , let water get warm all the afternoon,  when I came back I pulled out the  t shirt to rinse, at the time of empting the tub the timer didn't work anymore!
Mechanism is gone, it just idles, no ticking!

Paid it 30 euros!
Luckily I did not even started to modify the knob to fir into, I was still using the pliers....
Every step I do ahed for some reasons I return 3 back!
Sorry for the outburst!
But really nothing goes to the right sense.

 

[kenmoreguy89]

P.S
I removed the broken pilot light this morning, front panel got back in place with not much fatigue this time,  anyway I've noticed is  a all in one piece thing......I'd like to keep the original one but I believe it is not possible, I hope to find a round one similar in orange to fit also the chromed ring....
That the minor of the problems anyway now like now....

 

[kenmoreguy89]

This would be almost like the original...it is 16mm though!

Ci scusiamo per l'interruzione.

 

[kenmoreguy89]

The  worn spinner belt:

 

[kenmoreguy89]

particular of the belt composition on the broken side: