Sounds of the Hoover Keymatics..

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Mike, thanks for the education of the different "Keymatic" machines.  They are so cool.  I can't get over the "belt maze" of the first design!  That is mind blowing! 

 

I always wished we had the Hoover brand front loaders here in the States.  I have always found them so interesting. 

 

What a treasure you have with your collection of Hoover's.  And others. 

 

Thanks for sharing!
 
This is going to drive me nuts...

Has anyone ever decoded how a keymatic card works?

i.e. What exactly do the notches do? How do they work?

I noticed on the older keycards, the notches look different and they're wider.

I can't find any information on the net about them.
 
Sounds of the Hoover Keymatics

Ian, get that lid off next time over ha ha, Mathew explained clearer than I did, you have to see it, those arms swinging about on the timeline as opposed to the "Timeline Lights" are something else.

Brent, yes belts belts more belts, hoses and wiring everywhere on the first 2 series, you an see how "Electronics" makes life easier...but are they as much fun? dunno..

Hi Leon,yes all those clicks n whirrs make them special and now Keith has a brochure showing an Aus Keymatic with woodgrain fascia and a "Sudsaver" who would have thought !!
 
@ Qualin

If you look at the link below of Mike's flickr thread about the Keymatic about half way down you will see schematics of the 3224 machine from 1964 and on the right the diagram of the Keyplate reader. This was an entirely mechanical system and SupermaticJames recently gave a good précis of how it worked - I quote

"The Keyplate selects the programme, think of it as the dial you turn when selecting a programme. The Keyplate enabled the machine to offer a variety of programmes basically by choosing what operations the programme timer carries out. The slot in which the Keyplate is pushed into has many little switches, each linked to the timer. When these switches are closed by the raised sections on the Keyplate, the relevant sections of the timer are activated and the actions are carried out. Also, if there are notches in the Keyplate the switches are open and the relevant sections of the timer are bypassed and the programme advances."

I hope this clarifies things a bit for you. I would also add that on my wide body 3203 you can actually hear and see it going through parts of the cycle that are not actually needed for the particular wash so that, for example, if you select Spin Only there is a momentary pre wash fill, quick tumble, drain, momentary main wash fill etc. until it finally comes to the spin - there is no knob to move the timer past those points before starting.

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Sounds of the Hoover Keymatics

Hi Qualin, "How Does The Keyplate Work" baffled us all until you get your head in and around it. The KEYPLATE has 4 programmes printed each side , x 2 keyplates make the machine distinguish 16 programmes.

You then identify the programme you want, insert it into the KEYPLATE READER - the slots for the identified programme engage with a bank of 16 SWITCH CONTACTS in the back of the reader. At the back of the reader is a similar looking box timer which has all the cogs and relays which then work the programme sequencing and switch on fill valves, heater, motor etc.

This BOX SWITCH acts as a bank of open / closed / energised circuits which tell the machine to FILL, HEAT, WASH, DRAIN, Rinse 1, Drain, Rinse 2, Drain, Rinse 3, Drain and then SPIN.

Here is the A3008 wil keyplates in.

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Chestermikeuk,  I wondered if they Keymatics where ever made with a coin op design?  Great thread, Thank You! Arthur
 
Hoover keymatic Programme Chart

And here is a larger chart identifying the wash programmes you can select, this is from the A3062 Hoover Keymatic washing machine. The programmes shown here are classified as ITCL (International Textile Care Label) codes numbers 1 - 7, which is why we Brits refer to a number 2 Hot Wash or Number 5 (40d cotton darks wash) or doing a Number 7 wash (Woollens)

Hope this makes a bit more sense of the wonderful world of "Hoover Keymatic Keyplate Washing !!

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Keymatic In The US?

Several US members in this and other Keymatic posts have commented that Hoover did not sell the Keymatic in the US and Canada. I believe that there are several reasons for this.

Firstly you have to give Hoover the credit for (generally) knowing their market and how to make the most of it. The washer market was already very well catered for by the major players (and indeed by 1961 several of the smaller, earlier manufacturers had either disappeared or were on the way out) and the market was almost entirely top loading washers. As a front loader this would have been very much a niche product, a niche already being very well serviced by the Westinghouse Spacemates which, incidentally, had their own matching tumble dryer. There was no matching dryer for the slant front machines. Aside from the Hoovermatic did Hoover ever manufacture laundry appliances themselves in the US? I know they sold other products, but were these not sourced from other manufacturers? Know your market and how to make the most of it.

Secondly, speaking of Westinghouse, although I believe mechanically different from the earlier Westinghouse slant front models, there are a number of conceptual similarities which might also have prevented their introduction into the US on patent grounds.

Thirdly as Mike noted above, particularly the early models, are mechanically very complex and we know that they were difficult to service in the field - we have heard stories of how Hoover service agents would keep spare machines that they could swop out with faulty machines so that they could be repair back at their own shop. Bad enough in the UK, but could imagine trying to do this all across the US? You might say, well what about the Hoovermatic which sold for many years in the US? This of course was another niche product, but very different in that it was a product cheap to manufacture and easy to maintain - two things that could never be said about the Keymatic which would have been produced in relatively small numbers - I cannot see how a justification could ever have been produced to warrant the financial investment Hoover would have needed to manufacture in the US. If they had been imported into the US there would, most likely, have been import tariffs too although they would probably not have been the same barrier into Canada.

Finally, they would most likely have needed to have made substantial modifications to the machine to sell in the US. Although most machines were hot and cold fill they still conformed pretty much to the European habit of heating the water (at least to some extent) in the early stages of the wash which would most likely necessitate special wiring and, even if they could get over the lack of a heater, timers etc. would have had to be made to run on US voltage. And there was no provision for the use of LCB and other additives so beloved in the USA - in the slant front washers you just chucked the detergent in with the clothes and that was it. And of course they would have taken longer to complete the wash etc.

So, whilst I certainly understand the curiosity value to members here, I think to have tried to sell the Keymatic in the US would have been a nightmare from start to finish and Hoover would not have gone near it.

Al
 
Mathew/Mike
Thanks for that, I see now how it works, for some reason I was expecting the timeline indicator to come out of the top, hence the question. I'll have to have a look next time.
Ian.
 
WOW

what a video!

Thankyou for creating and posting it Mike..

Now are we going to have a remix and a dance track of all the different noises to go with the flashy disco lights?

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Great video Mike!

Always a privilege to see them and wonderful that, barring a couple of UK models, there is a representative of each preserved.

Hopefully my example will work again one day (it did try, when it was re-energised briefly last year).

Paul

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keys, disco;

His keys, her keys? Austin Metropolitans were exported to the states and sold by Nash Motors for the second car for her.
Remember this one? Sheila B Devotion: He's a spacer. Written by Sheik.
 
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