Splendide Vented Washer/Dryer combo 110 v. Any thoughts?

[verizonbear]

I am starting my retirement journey and I'm looking at some beach adjacent properties in Delaware. One that I like two miles from the beach with no washer dryer hooks on the inside however we have the shed with electrical and garden hose. This will be more of a seasonal escape for me spring and summer. I am thinking this model of washer dryer combo would be my best bet for a cheap laundry. Does anyone have any experience or information on this unit ? I am thinking to be drying times would be less than a 110 volt condenser model but not as good as the new heat pump models.

https://www.splendide.com/portfolio-details_WDV2200XCD.html

 

[launderess]

Vented will give you shorter drying times than (IIRC) water cooled condenser system.

That being said for full or near load of "Normal/Cottons" you're likely looking at cycle times of 2-3 hours from start of wash to finish of drying.

 

[jamiel]

I suspect you may be able to do as well with one of the GE or LG heat pump all in ones--check out the power company which may give you a rebate on those (doubt that they will with a specialty unit like this) to get the price down.

 

[henene4]

That combo is based on a (now) Whirlpool design that they merged in from Hotpoint after the acquisition.

Given the cabinet depth, this will have a 52l drum - that's barely 1.8cuft.
Or, realistically, 11lbs wash, 5.5lbs dry.
Further these aren't really known to be terribly reliable - stuff like bearings and control systems.
Amd given the base design isn't really common in the US, parts will be a challenge, too.

Given the price I found online right away is something like 1300$, I don't see a reason to get that one, if Samsungs, LGs or GEs heat pump combos can be had for under 2000$ on offer - which give you faster, better, more efficient results for more laundry.

Unless you get an amazing deal on that one and have access to a full washer dryer set every other week or so and just use this for the laundry emergencies, I wouldn't get that one.

 

[launderess]

Splendide has been selling laundry appliances in USA for some time now, spares do *NOT* seem to be an issue.

https://rvwashersdryers.com/collect...tf5yrHU3vh8pV4as9Rv2NK97qAIn5CBV_gy4jrNZfkcYS

https://www.guaranteedparts.com/cat...XdnbS46d7CTgqCR1q1MOU8Zd1duShv4d7b_XDXB1jW-v2

https://www.splendide.com/service/Combo_PartsBreakDown.pdf

https://youngfartsrvparts.com/pages...asher-dryer-combo-product-id-wd802-parts-list

These machines are staggeringly popular with RV set and as such much can be learned from such owners.

Yes, there are issues, but what appliance doesn't have problems? Many with Splendide come down to user error and or perhaps lack of maintenance along with ignorance of just what any such appliance is capable of doing.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Spl...V2FO-EQrQIoBHoECEUQBQ&biw=983&bih=671&dpr=1.3

 

[henene4]

Sorry, but a drain pump for 200$?!? A fill valve for 100$? A door seal for 150$?

That makes SQ parts almost worth their price...

The main reason these are very popular in caravans is their very unique setup.
In a caravan, you have limited power, water and space resources, but easy venting access.
These don't need water for drying, run off 120V and are compact.

In an outdoor shed with plumbing, you don't (usually) care about size or water consumption.
Maybe that it runs off of 120V.

 

[launderess]

Splendide laundry appliances are made by Indesit Company and imported to USA by Westland company. It is highly likely as Sears did Whirlpool, Indesit makes various modifications to "Splendide" units per request of Westland. Latter has been importing such units since 2013 if not before so there is a long relationship and history of units sold in USA.

Indesit was purchased by Merloni Elettrodomestici SpA in 1987, Whirlpool got their mitts on them next.

Sorting out what Merloni made what appliance wise is complicated.

Aristide Merloni had three sons whom each inherited bit of their father's businesses upon his death.

Merloni Elettrodomestici - Indesit Company, directed by Vittorio Merloni

Merloni Termosanitari - Ariston Thermo Group, directed by Francesco Merloni

Mechanical sector, managed by Antonio Merloni.

Antonio Merloni put together Antonio Merloni Cylinders Ghergo Group S.p.A. after merging with Ardo producing among other things washing machines, refrigerators and other appliances. After subsequently becoming "Antonio Merloni S.p.A.", Antonio Merloni went on a buying spree snapping up old appliance names across Europe such as Servis Ltd, Philco, etc... Appliances were made largely made in Italy but exported to other parts of Europe and sold under brand names people knew.

Antonio Merloni S.p.A sold washing machines, dryers and combo units marketed under "Malber" that were imported by that company. My old (long since sold on) Malber washer manufacturing tag stated it was "Philco..."

At some point things switched up between the Merloni brothers and Splendide seems to have replaced Malber.

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?17068

https://www.absak.com/pdf/manuals/Malber/WDman.pdf

Far as USA market was concerned those wanting (or needing) an inexpensive front loading (read couldn't afford Miele, Asko, Bosch or Creda) and one that ran on 120v current turned to Malber, Equator or later Splendide.

 

[launderess]

"Sorry, but a drain pump for 200$?!? A fill valve for 100$? A door seal for 150$?"

And how often would or should one be replacing such parts?

While not comparable on many levels prices for Miele and others spares are usually just as dear. But it isn't as if one will be replacing say a drain pump all that often.

 

[henene4]

Yeah, but why pay a premium on a machine that's based on a design known to not be that reliable and that isn't that great to begin with, only to then pay another premium on simple parts?

The machine doesn't even have sensor drying.

It's just NOT a good deal for 1300$ unless you REALLY only have space for exactly one machine.
Especially because it doesn't offer any specific value performance wise or serviceability wise.

Especially if you can get the cheapest FL you can find - full size or not - for 700$ and slap a 120V compact dryer on top.
You end up paying 1400$ - a bit more, but can wash and dry more laundry, still quicker because you can wash while you dry the first load, get better part availability for less money down the line AND get more comfort out of it because you get something so stupidly common like auto dry.

Or - if money isn't the issue - you take the few hundred bucks into your hand and get one of the new combos.

Why am I so appalled by a drain pump for 200$?
Because EVERY single manufacturer uses basically the same simple AC synchronous drain pump which all cost no more than 10$ wholesale and can be had - for basically ANY other washer - for a quarter that price.
And that drain pump is nothing different - quite literally.
It's just a WP build machine, based on an Indesit design, adapted for 120V and with a vent port instead of a condenser.
There is no reason other than ridiculous mark-ups just cause they can - that's why that drain pump is 200$.

 

[combo52]

24 inch 120 V vented combination washer dryer

We've had considerable experience with these machines most of them were made in Italy over the last 40 years. They are popular and things like motorhomes.

They're absolutely miserable performing machines. You're lucky to get a two or 3 pound load done in three hours anything of size even a pair of men's jeans will be all wrinkled up if they ever dry.

Unless it's the only thing you have space for this is not something to consider. I assume the shed is big enough for a little bit larger machine. You could take a full size 27 inch front load washer and stack an old Westinghouse dryer on top of it and run it at 120 V if you don't have 240 there or you may be able to hook it to propane and get a gas dryer and then you'd have a real laundry that you can get stuff done in

Last thing you wanna do is have a weekend house where you have to wait for the machine to finish after you've done sheets, towels, etc. for guess when you wanna go back to your regular residence.

John

 

[verizonbear]

Thank you to everybody for your advice and info. I see that Whirlpool has a 24-in stackable top load that is 110 volt that would be a good alternative I'm going to take a look at that. Also I'm thinking it may be wise to locate this in the house rather than in the shed given that it's 2 mi from the beach and the salt Air May wreak havoc to an appliance in an air conditioned space

 

[solsburian]

Now that Whirlpool has more or less sold off their Europe, Middle East and Africa division to Beko (Arcelik), it is likely that the Indesit machine designs will be retired or merged into the Beko designs. At that stage it will be interesting to see if Splendide will adopt the eventual Beko machines, or just import Chinese machines from the likes of Midea etc.

One thing for me that stands out is the relatively low spin speeds the likes of the Splendide combo machines have (i.e. 1200 RPM), where as their sister European 230v machines (also from Wirlpool/Indesit) offer 1400 or 1600 RPM spin speeds. I would think with the 120 voltage limitations of drying for the Splendide models, having a higher spin speed would help to minimise drying time.

 

[henene4]

For a EU style combo, usually, the 120V isn't that big of a deal.
Most combos only use somewhere between 1200W and 1800W for drying heating - so these often just swap the heaters for same wattage lower voltage ones.

Main factor being the lower air volume moved by the (sometimes comically) small fans and the limited condensation ability.