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Okay, they call it "UltraReverse" now.
But still: The only home dryer with seperate fan motor on the market right now.

That's triple inverter technology: drum motor, process air fan and compressor.
I am SO close to selling my VZug dryer...

 
Not you selling the V-Zug! 😱

The specs of the Haier are interesting. Nice big drum. It also has a filter in front of the heat pump, which I like. Unfortunately, the manual is not very informative. You can adjust the "wind" in 5 speeds but what for exactly? No description of the cycles but their name. I'm not seeing it sold anywhere yet.
 
The VZug dryer is impressive in some ways, and disappointing in others - even disregarding price.

Especially drum size is just pretty small for todays standards, its bedding performance is OK at best. And ii isn't particularly quiet.
Not gonna sell the washer - there's just nothing like it.
But the dryer 🤷

Actually have to correct myself in one statement though. Technically, there is a second dryer with separate fan motor.
VZug's Combi dryer with the room dehumidification has a separate fan and drum motor.

I was kind of confused about why you have adjustable fan speed aswell - but I mean why not?
However would have liked a table in the manual for what to use for what.

Reading through the manual though, I am not 100% certain it actually has a variable speed compressor since it lacks speed and eco options.
However, given it's A+++ -10%, has variable temp settings AND the user adjustable fan speed, I still think it's highly likely it has one to compensate all these facts onto each other.
 
The F&P has been on the market some time and is on sale in the UK.

That doesn't allow for variable fan speeds, but has the typical cycle optimizers (Speed, Eco, Quiet) which will have more use.
But should be the same base dryer per se.
Also has many more cycles, much more "useful" IMO.

https://www.fisherpaykel.com/uk/lau...ing-dryer-9kg-steam-care-dh9060fs1-94226.html

Actually was toying with the idea to make a UK trip like I did to Switzerland for the VZugs.

But that's a bit down the road...
 
F&P laundry is pretty cool. MrLaundry101, who's on here as well, has a washer and the videos are impressive. I wish Haier would also sell F&P in Europe.
 
Haier X Series 11

I got the Haier X Series 11 Tower. It has replaced a V-Zug V4000 washing machine (with extra program package, so almost a V6000 without the heat pump) and a V2000 dryer.
The dryer is excellent, so much quieter than V-Zug or Miele Passion. It is faster and touch and feel is better than V-Zug dryer. It dryes very evenly. The UI is somehow annoying, you have to actively select the „Knitterschutz“ or anti-wrinkle tumbling (up 6h possible).
Option to choose the air flow intensity is just pointless except maybe for ultra light synthetic or silk, but then I‘d select the suitable program. It is also nice that one can chose between low medium and high temperatures.
It is also annoying that you have to turn on the appliance to have the interior light work, with V-Zug the appliances is somehow always on Stand by which I prefer.
As for the washing machine from Haier I‘m a bit disappointed, the auto dose drawer has massiv problems with overflowing/leaking and too low dosage… Will have the chief service technician to check it. The drum is massive, the machine is as quiet as Adora V4000 if not quieter. But still, Adora is for me still the best washing machine on the market, it is faster, the drum with many little holes is better, it is programmed correctly and no fussing around between program parts, spins and sensing…
 
I am thinking about ditching my V6000 pair aswell.

The washer is just amazing - maybe not as capable as others if filled to capacity, but with adequate loading it's a stellar performer.
Given what I'm thinking about replacing it with that would be my biggest fear, loosing the washing performance and convenience of 2h cycles or 40min true 60° washing.

The dryers are a big letdown IMO.
They aren't bad - they dry most loads spot on with minimal energy usage at pretty low temps.
But they aren't that quiet, the drum is a tad small, they don't feel like the price they are.
And they are pricey.

Other dryers like the new AEG I got my partner run laps around it in basically any category for half the price.
 
Haier X11

It’s just a shame that the haiers run so hot during drying. The compressor ramps up to max speed at the start of cycle and slows down once the selected temp is reached. L1 -3 is 50c, 60c & 70c respectively, although this does make it faster. On the other hand, my latest Bosch series 8 with inverter maxes it out most cycles on normal mode at 50-52c at the very end of the cycle. Speed perfect increases that about 10c. With so cool running & efficency it does take longer than most - say on average 1hr flat increase. I’d like to think that the fisher&paykel equivalent is also cool running since it has no temp selection
 
Hi All,

I’ve recently got the Haier X11 dryer too.

It’s an interesting design. I believe the high running temperatures are intentional. A lot of the marketing talks about the machine’s true reverse drying reducing creases… which it does… but I think they’ve attempted to replicate almost an old vented dryer with high heat and high airflow to also smooth out fabrics. Since I last used a vented dryer, I’ve not had bed sheets come out of the dryer as completely smooth as they do now, compared with any other heatpump.

It's a great design and very fast. The only thing that lets it down for me is the lack of a very low drying temperature option. Those high heats are okay for bedding and towels, but I imagine clothing will suffer a bit along the seams with shrinking and misshaping. Given that other dryers have a ‘do not tumble dry’ safe cycle, there seems to be an obvious gap in this machine, given that it has a completely flexible speed heat pump. It’s ideally positioned to manage temperature more accurately than those with an on/off style system, yet the function isn’t there when others have made it work with a more challenging set-up.

That said, I have been using the ‘Flexy Air’ function to help with this. The option is much more sophisticated than it appears at first. The function does control the airflow, but it also controls the maximum output of the heat pump. I don’t know what the percentages are (hopefully one day a technical/service manual might reveal how it works), but if you lower the setting, the heat pump also operates within a lower range. It still cycles up and down to manage temperature, but it won’t exceed a certain percentage of operating output. All cycles are set to 5 initially, meaning airflow and heat pump output are set to maximum. This kind of works as a ‘Speed’ setting. But lower settings offer gentler drying and also act as multi-level quiet or eco settings. I thought this might be the case as I read somewhere the Flexy Air function allowed the user to control energy use, which I thought was weird. But yes, essentially, you’re turning down the heat pump output away from the speed setting.

Unfortunately, the machine’s target temperature still appears to be 50/60/70C, depending on the heat setting, but it is harder to reach if the Flexy air function is turned down. I dried a load of clothes the other day on option 3, and the temperature didn’t exceed 35C before the cycle finished.

Overall, I’m really pleased with it, but Haier announced at IFA 2024 that infrared moisture sensing (like AEGs 3D scan) is coming, so if they can add that, plus an ultra-low temp option, I think it would be up there with some of the best on the market.

I’ve linked a video of the machine. I’ll get some more done soon

 
Meanwhile my Serie 8 dryer just keeps the heat pump running until the clothes are dry with the temp usually approaching 70° regardless. It's fast, though.
 
High Process Temperature

I have not measured the process temperature (have to get proper tool to do), but using the KI-Smart/Automatic program with low temperature has dried a mixed load of t-shirts and sportswear very evenly without creasing, shrinking or deforming the cotton items. My cotton boxer shorty did not „curl“ at the ends, which is an indicator for me, that the temperature must have staid low. Still, I use the dryer mostly for towels, underwear, socks, synthetic sports wear. Everting else I hang dry.
As well, even on high temperatures with big loads of towels, the exterior of the dryer does not heat up as much as the V-Zug.
Yesterday I washed and dried a down-jacket. The drying result on the duvet/down program was just spot on.
Has anyone of the X Series users found a way to effectively de-wrinkle clothes in the washer or dryer??
The i-rerfresh-steam program on the washer is a joke. Not to compare to steam finish from Miele or V-Zug.
 
So, I guess the verdict here is dryer yay, washer nay.

Been drying my mattress cover yesterday. Delicates, low temp, cupboard dry and the dryness adjustment to three "suns". The item did in fact come out dry but the final temp was 61C. Then again, I've been using regular dryers for all but the last four years, so I'm not fazed by higher temps.

The Haier dryer seems very promising with its flexibility and large drum. Too bad it's so expensive.
 
Hi Logixx, yes it is my channel.
I got problems with the automatic dosing detergent compartment. When using powder detergent, even small amount, water is dripping and even flowing out the drawer. Must be a capillary effect. Foam control especially during spin is not working properly, foam is coming out the drawer.
In the beginning, on Cotton cycle, the machine always extended the time to maximum 3h30min although I have filled it 1/4 and reduced the time with i-time to minimum. However, this fault disappeared, might have been an update after I complained haha.
Tomorrow the chief laundry technician from Fust (Swiss Appliances store) is coming to check the machine.
I hope we will solve the problem. Otherwise I will exchange to iPro 7 Plus with same capacity.
I like Haier, it is a very promising brand, really good proce value for the iPro Series. Still I hope V-Zug will bring out their new line next year with major innovation and improvements.
Miele has been a bit disappointing in the laundry sector, however kitchen appliances are still top notch.
 
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