The most appalling thing I have seen on eBay in a long time...

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Until recently I had a small collection of "black americana" I'd been collecting for about 25 years but I've sold most of it off to another collector only keeping my cookie jar. BTW it's far from the truth that Canada was an accepting society. Yes many blacks came here on the underground railroad but that doesn't mean that they were welcomed with open arms because they weren't. They were discriminated against all the same and shuffled about with most ending up in Nova Scotia living on the wrong side of the tracks where many of the original families that came still live today. As for opportunites in some ways blacks in Canada were worse off because they were so few and far between there was no way of getting ahead and all were relegated to the "traditional" roles of cooks/porters,laborers etc as late as the late 1960's. It was the future prime minister Pierre Trudeau in 1968, then the justice minister that turned this country on its ear with sweeping changes to the divorce laws, multi-culturalism and of course his most profound statement that "the government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation" referring to the decriminalization of homosexuality in Canada. I wished we had another one of him now, he would point blanketedly tell any neo-cons exactly what to do in no uncertain terms and show them the way with his middle finger.. He really was a great man. And he could pirrouette.
 
Frankly I don't see this as a rancorous discussion

Hi,

I hope that nobody thinks that I was insinuating anything. I think, Sudsmaster, that you may be taking me to task for being curious. I'm always amazed at the topics that are discussed here. They are either thought provoking or passion evoking. Nothing more-nothing less :-)

Brett, Thank you for taking the time to reply to my inquisition. I do appreciate it. I hope that you weren't offended by my asking. If you were then I apologize.

Rich
 
Sometimes....

I've got to tell you that sometimes I think some of you are just full of sh*t. The 50's were a different time. Today's thoughts on race, life, sexual orientation, etc.... is profoundly different. What you see listed on Ebay is part of our American history and culture, like it or not. (were black women not supposed to have the latest technology, a wringer washer?) Would you have looked at the listing differently if it had been a white woman, or (Heaven forbid, a Chinese woman???) Covering up history and ignoring it is just stupid. So, get off your high horses with your attitudes of today's world, it WAS the 50's ya'll. Mark
 
LC, No I just don't happen to think that a woman getting a breast flattened by a mangle is funny; I already said I'd find it offensive if it were an Irish washerwoman; if you can't say something nice about others the conventional wisdom - as it surely was in the 50's - is that it's most polite to say nothing.

An extreme example: the Holocaust is part of history and certainly doesn't need to be ignored or swept under the rug. But that doesn't mean that lampshades made out of the skins of victims are not extremely offensive, even though at the time they were highly prized among some people.
 
I don't know

which is more ridiculous, some of the OTT reactions to this ashtray or the fact that the seller felt the need to cover the nipple with a little piece of paper!!
 
Good points, Sudsy

truth is, there was a culture of degradation/oppression of blacks. its there in the movies and news archives and advertisements of the day. in this context, yes, this ashtray is offensive. also, ive gotten the impression this group is a cut above the other tacky message boards with their flame wars and insults. a group of mostly male washing machine enthusiasts should have a superior sense of inclusion and compassion for outsiders. dismissing/mocking someones compassionate sentiments is unfortunate. err on the side of charity, its more civilized. for example, "the Dyson has a nice dusting tool feature". there, see how nice *I* am? LOL
 
I don't recall directing my comments at you

I'm glad that it wasn't me :-)

Before I join the rest, for cake, I just thought that I would leave with a "funny" story.

I was on the phone last night with my old high school sweetheart/girlfriend so I had her take a look at this (she is a doctor in Boston who happens to be black)ashtray and the posts. After she stopped laughing all she could say, in her best southern drawl (she is from Alabama), was "You seeze. I tolds ya dat weeze was da first to invent dat there mammogram machine!"

I hope that this made some of you laugh. I can tell you that I just about wet myself!!!

Rich
 
Sometimes the most offensive things are things we DON'T

Girls, Think of all of the offensive things that we DON'T ever see! Everytime you use that TIDE, TIDE HE, DAWN, CASCADE, or any P& G product for that matter, do you realize that it has been tested on dogs, cats, and monkeys? Lets put this stuff in their eyes and see how long it takes them to go blind......lets put it into their stomachs and see how long it take for it to become toxic and kill them.....lets put some.....and on it goes. I've found through the years that PEOPLE can and will take up for themselves, (and once they have been degraded enough, they will unless of course they're into that sort of thing for fun) animals can't. NOW THAT'S OFFENSIVE! Mark
 
Sadly

Sad but true. If you call and ask P& G if they test on animals they are VERY evasive. If you ask them to write to you that they DO NOT test on animals on P& G letterhead, they will not do it. They now farm out (to ''independent'' labs) their cruelty and don't do it in house anymore. Mark
 
Yeah, who doesn't test on animals? Boycotting P&G won't put them out of business but it will give you good feeling that you didn't use something that used on an animal.
 
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