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Yes, that's what I like about the FP is that the agitator model (at least in the US), is not an HE machine. The auto level works decent actually, though I discovered that while washing bedding it's best to select the water level manually.

Best thing I like is that the water temp isn't dumbed down, unless you want it to be. I selected warm and it felt almost hot to me...haha. Nice! I turned controlled cold on instead of tap cold because out tap water gets pretty chilly in NH this time of year.

It's a very cool machine.
 
It's a completely different machine honestly. The Maytag, while able to be filled completely, was still an HE machine at heart. The FP is not an HE machine, it fills traditionally and has more control over options, which I liked better.

The Maytag is probably a better cleaner, though it did take longer, but would clean anything. The FP has done a good job so far but it's cycles are timed more like a regular washer. I'll probably notice the biggest difference on my whites. The Maytag cleaned them spotless, with little to no pretreatment. My other stuff doesn't get that dirty so I won't be able to see a difference. But like I said, I like the more traditional setup of the FP.
 
 
To clarify on Rapunzel/Olav's F&P detail for agitator models ... only the initial Eco Active pretreatment is at the low-water saturation level, at the selected temperature.  The Eco Active solution is not drained, a traditional agitated wash follows at either an auto-sensed or a manually-selected water level, with the fill being at controlled-cold (Regular, Heavy, Delicate, Quick cycles).

Only the Regular & Heavy cycles default to an eco/shower rinse (like SQ's Normal Eco cycle but designed differently and IMO more effective).  Softener option changes it to an agitated rinse.

WashSmart's Allergy cycle fills to the selected level fully at the selected temperature, no controlled-cold is involved (and it does two deep agitated rinses).  JoeyPete has confirmed that Allergy defaults to Hot but any temp can be selected.  Can also fill it on Allergy, then change the cycle (manually select the same water level) and it'll happily run along with Hot water (or whatever temp) on whichever cycle.

Software revisions vary the temperatures across the range of models, production years, market areas, etc.
Target temps on my 2004 IWL12 Intuitive Eco (per Diagnostic Mode).  A submenu provides adjustment (in °C) of -6, -4, -2, 0, +2, +4, +6.
- Hot = 69°C (156.2°F, equivalent to tap hot)
- Warm/Hot = 51°C (123.8°F, also equivalent to tap hot for most households per typical water heater settings)
- Warm = 46°C (114.8°F)
- Warm/Cold = 34°C (93.2°F)
- Cold+ (Controlled Cold) = 16°C (60.8°F)
- Cold = tap

Perm Press or Easy Iron or Creasables, as the cycle is variously called, is usually designed as a traditional wash without Eco Active.  The Creasables option on my IWL12 does run Eco Active, raises the auto-sensed water level one level higher (not higher than High, of course) after sensing is done, and has two agitated rinses.
 
SQ TR Models Reply # 163 &164 Tests

Just Pathetic , An hour to wash 15 shirts that are not even dirty, and over an hour to wash a small load of small shop towels, they should have compared the results to also doing the same loads in a SQ TC 5000 and a SQ FL washer.

 

There should have been a comparison of total water, total hot water and time, and a comparison of actual before and after results to a TC5000.

 

Speed Queen knows these washers do not excel in performance, this is the reason the old machine is still in production for commercial use and the TC5000 is now the best selling TL washer for home use.
 
Only 5 Jeans in a 22 pound capacity washer

Such BS, they are more wet than dirty, he should go get 10 pairs of dirty jeans from the local auto body shop and wash them in this washer and as a control run an identical load through a SQ TC5000.

 

The amount of time, hot and cold water and electricity used and weight of the clothing at the end of the cycle then compare the results.

 

The new TR machine will win on electrical consumption and on water extraction, you will save about 1 cent in power consumption to run the washer and 5 cents to 14 cents when drying the clothing depending on whether a gas or electric dryer, but you will have ten pairs of jeans that are very noticeable dirtier with the TR, we have done multiple very dirty load tests at our shop.

 

A super capacity DD WP-KM will beat the tc a little in overall cleaning but be a little worse in water extraction than the TC.

 

John L.
 
Old thread

I am still not too thrilled about Speed Queen’s 2018 design since the wash action is lethargic, and uses a absurd amount of water compared to the models that preceded them. Admittedly, they have worked out a few bugs but still don’t wash or rinse as well compared to 2017 and older models.

Pretty much my folks wanted a Speed Queen set when we were supposed to move to Idaho (plans changed and haven’t moved yet) but since the design changed in 2018, I told them not to get it since it had poor washing and rinsing performance and was more expensive than the models that preceded them as well.

Speed Queen may have went back to the drawing board and brought back the old design but still doesn’t seem quite the same and am not too fond of the first slow spin since it doesn’t spin out enough of the soapy water and detergent resulting in suds in the rinse water.
 

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