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maytagmike

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Wanted to get input of club members here. The Waltons was one of my favorite TV shows of all time, We had a big tight knit family, I grew up on a dairy farm and we all worked together. Our house looked a lot like the one on the show brings back alot of good memories. Mom's mom lived with us the whole time i was growing up. What bothers me is that alot of the reviews say that the show was sugar coated. I think it was pretty well true to form considering the time periods for the show. Grandma Walton my favorite. Looking forward to reading your views. I watch it on INSP every day 2 back to back episodes.

Good Night All
 
My mother loved The Waltons as she was one of 7 kids and said it somewhat related to them. My grandfather was an engineer on Maine Central Railroad and made real good money for that time so they were all were fed well warm house and the first on their street to have a television. I wished Ma could have seen the later movies and reunions. I can just see my grandmother driving Olivia's Country Squire
 
It was a Sweet, Uplifting Story That Diverted Us

I admire the forward thinking put forward in the Walton's treatment of their black neighbors, but have trouble believing it. I am not calling them clansmen, but I just think they would have bowed more to the mores of the place and day in keeping a distance. I am sure there were cases where whites worked with blacks in a cooperative attitude, but it was an exception when everyone was scrambling for the little bit of money available. I think it was a noble story line, but not totally believable. I also wonder about their economic success. I know that they were hard-working and it was comforting to see them gathered around the table for meals, but how big was that mountain that they could keep cutting lumber from it year after year?

 

I think the show filled a deep need at the time when American society was taking a hit from circumstances like the oil shock and the new social trends of the time with the breakdown of the strength of the family at least partially brought on by the economic hardships causing job and home losses. I still remember the successful home builder who lived at the entrance to our neighborhood who lost his work when the economy tanked when inflation soared and had to sell the house and move. Many people today forget or are completely unaware of the turmoil we experienced in decades past. The people who are unaware of the economic and social turmoil of past decades are either filthy rich or oblivious due to bad history teaching.
 
I loved the Waltons

Still do The show is timeless.
My Mom would agree with Norgeway's Dad. The Waltons were better off than many during that time period.

My Mom was one of 17 kids in a two room cabin, no running water, no electricity. They grew, raised, or shot everything they ate.

Funny side note: I was reading a story about the Walton's cast. The kids were pretty tame. Ralph Wait was a Presbyterian Minister, who fell into the bottle after the death of a child, the show pulled him out, when he felt he had to be an example for the kids. Michael Learned was a drunk, and carried a bottle in her apron pocket. Ellen Corby, dear temperance, bible carrying Grandma, was a chain smoking lesbian that could cuss a blue streak.
 
My main issue with the show was that many characters were naive, gullible, and narrow-minded to the point they weren't believable.

It was a 1930's version of a life that (even as a kid) I knew I wanted no part of. That might be why I'm unduly harsh....

Jim
 
ahhhh....I loved the innocence of the show.  The pilot is a made for television movie "The Homecoming"   it is a Christmas favorite for me.   I think the characters were truly from a time when family meant something.   My grandparents were from the Depression and from the Holocaust.   They decided to "fit in" and become Americanized and they loved this show.  I have very fond memories of the early years.   Patricia Neal was Olivia Walton in "The Homecoming" and of course Michael Learned became the series Olivia.    

 

The theme is one that I have used in events and it always takes people back to a simpler time...yes even the 1970s were a simpler time while the show depicted the Great Depression years.  

 

Here is the best version of the opening theme......I could listen to this for hours on end.  Jerry Goldsmith was the artist. (did many more themes which I loved too).

 

 
Will Geer (Grandpa Walton) was a member of the US Communist Party.  He was blacklisted in the 1950's for refusing to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee.  His roles as "Bear Claw" in Jeremiah Johnson, and Zebulon Walton helped rescue his career. 

 

He died April 22, 1978 of respiratory failure shortly after completing filming of Season 6 of The Waltons.
 
We may

see multi generational households in our near future because it is becoming ever more expensive to care for the elderly, and even our own healthcare. Many of us today have four generations alive in our families.
All that law suit money you got from suing those doctors and hospitals you will spend for healthcare.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be sued at all ever, but for how much?
It's part of the storm that has increased mal practice insurance and healthcare.
One example: A 76 year old patient had his testacles sucked into the drain of whirlpool bath in a hospital when the staff was lifting him out. They opened the drain before they lifted him. His attorneys argued that he and his wife's sex lives were ruined from the accident. She was also in her late 70's.
They won a court settlement of Two million dollars. of course their lawyers took
35%. The hospital lost the appeal trial. $500 thousand would have lasted them till they died.
So how did we get from zero co pays or deductables in the late 70's to now?
The more insurance covers, the more all costs inflate.
When my dad had his quadruple coronary bypass in 1995, it cost over $150,000.
Back then, the same operation in India was still under $10,000.
Why do you think so many Indian doctors are here today?
Access to good healthcare? Follow the money.
Is there a complete solution? I doubt it. Every nation with nationalized care also has private hospitals for the wealthy.
We're born, we grow up, work, pay taxes, age, then die.
The next generation does the same. Does anyone truly care? Most doctors and nurses care.
To any of those who do not care, or only about the money, I say, we never know, a black hole may swallow up the earth.
Bye bye Bobby, like She Devil Rosanne Bar's mother said.
 
Shame on him then!

Totalitarianism doesn't work. Russia ended up buying wheat from us beginning in 1972 to feed it's hungry people. The writing was on the Berlin wall by then. It had to come down.
You can not take free enterprise away and expect people to be productive. They have no stake in the profitability. Only the top one percent do in the party.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Of course the farmers ate well before anyone else, but the state owned 90% of their crops and livestock. In addition, farmers were not allowed to sell even their 10% in a free market.
A diverse contrast from here, where farmers at times were paid not to grow too much.
When workers have no profit stake in their jobs, they don't care, and don't produce well.
Some very large US companies are not paying the bulk of their employees very well. Possibly why our middle class has declined.
Many work 30 hours, and collect a food assistance supplement, or even a housing assistance, and are on Medicaid.
Why not pay them better for 40 hours, with good insurance, so they need no public help?
Do the math, who are truly the welfare queens? The working poor, or their employers?
This trend began in the 1980's. Trickle down, but the cost of living has not.
We may be our own enemy.
 
Free enterprise

must also allow workers to constitutionally organize, and vote in a union, or vote one out. Otherwise, they are at the mercy of either entity from bargaining fairly.
The Soviets allowed no such activities.
One other reason why they had no supply or demand for goods and services.
When a labor force can afford to live well, they have no reason to need a union.
 
Oh, it was a green eye.

When I was watching the Waltons as a teen, my parents did not own a color tv set yet.
My father was not fond of us watching too much tv. He called it the idiot box, or one eyed monster.
The only green eye I saw was on the back of a dollar bill at the top of the pyramid.
 
"Russia ended up buying wheat from us beginning in 1972 to feed it's hungry people. The writing was on the Berlin wall by then. It had to come down."

Why do you think they've been trying to take over Poland and the Ukraine for centuries? Poland and the Ukraine have been food EXporters for most of their respective histories.

When I was an undergrad in the 80's the professors' collective opinion was that the Soviet Union had 20-30 years left. Look like the profs overestimated them, lol.

A rather large number of people were duped by Soviet-style communism. The names escape me now but some of them were rather well-known.

Then again, we need to remember that theoretically a country needed to have a SUCCESSFUL, developed capitalist economy before it could become communist.

Also, one could be communist and not support the Soviet Union.

Jim
 
Bread Basket

And with good reason.

Of course, Neither Poland nor the Ukraine really did much to foster good relations with Russia.

Both countries:
- were westward looking, culturally
- conducted most of their trade with countries/cities to the west
- had cities dating back to the 800's, well before the founding of Moscow
- had little interest in buying what Russia had to sell
- had and still have cultural attitudes regarding Russia that didn't exactly help.

Jim
 

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